http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 22nd 2009 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Of course Bluetooth won't have the range of WiFi, but it isn't suppose to either.]]>Apr 23rd 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/So yeah Audio Quality should be good but dont take my word for it, but so far Bluetooth 3 seems like a huge jump from bluetooth 2]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
Just thinking.]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
I just hope you can turn off the 802.11 as I find myself relying on BT more for power consumption than anything else.]]>Apr 21st 2009 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
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I currently use Wi-Fi for transfering pictures, videos from PC to PS3. Even at 54mbps speed, it still takes a long time to move large files around which is pretty annoying. I don't know what they're going to achieve with this? I don't see the point of this Bluetooth 3.0 when nearly everyone has the tried-and-true and also FASTER WiFi (adhoc). Isn't it better to have a single,universal wireless standard for everything? 802.11 N looks really promising.]]>Apr 22nd 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 23rd 2009 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/will it stream well with hd content
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will it run crysis... sry had to wonder...]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
No, no you didn't.]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/USB 3 = 5.0 Gbit/s (625 MB/s)

There is plans to release new SATA 6GB for the end of 2009 or early 2010 but i think only SSD drives gonna benefit from this
Normal hard drives never read the 300MB/S speed~ Fastest hard drives in the market can barely reach the 100MB/S "7200RPM~)

To make it short USB3 is amazing and Intel Fully support it and every other company, once it get released it will take over everything just like USB1/USB2 which sold Billions of products that use USB]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
So instead of one bluetooth chip, now you need both the bluetooth and 802.11 chip?

Why don't 802.11 just adopt Zeroconfig as a standard?]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
LTE is f*cking large scale metropolitan network scale shit not phone to phone etc. UWB and WUSB are great but expensive...

98% of bluetooth devices already have wifi chips as well, and from what i've heard the bluetooth3 devices will have the option of wifi+bluetooth or just blue3 ...

it comes down to cost effectiveness and thats where bluetooth3 with pull ahead of the rest...

for those people saying why not just wifi, because wifi isn't for hassel free intradevice connectivity. even adhoc is a hack i mean realistically how many poeple have you seen doing adhoc between pc's or devices?]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/networking names: umm sure, this is basically just naming the device, which you do on bluetooth too. Most have a default name anyway.

encryption keys: if by that you mean a password, which, again, is there in bluetooth, then sure.

assign ip addresses: please, most devices handle this automatically by default.

Honestly, it sounds like you're trying to choose the hardest and most totally configured ad-hoc connection possible to compare it with bluetooth. Just about everything you said already has default values and/or is also necessary in bluetooth connections.]]>Apr 21st 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
Of course most of these can be accomplished using the right software or protocols over a wifi network, but they are not part of the wifi standard.

This in turn, would combine the simplicity of use of bluetooth with the high speed transfer of wifi for devices that have both, which at the time bluetooth 3.0 is available, will be quite a few.]]>Apr 21st 2009 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
wifi networks don't support file sending or audio or video transfer? What networks are you using? That's pretty much everything that wifi does.... In fact those are pretty much the only things networks in general do. As for handsfree calling and peripherals:
1: Handsfree sets are peripherals so these are really the same thing and
2: DSi, 'nuff said. All its peripherals use wifi to connect to it through an ad hoc connection.

This in turn, would combine the simplicity of use of bluetooth with the high speed transfer of wifi for devices that have both, which at the time bluetooth 3.0 is available, will be quite a few.
That's precisely the problem. The "high speed transfer" of real wifi is significantly faster than this. 54Mbps for wireless G as opposed to 24Mbps. When implemented correctly(really not that hard to do, many devices do this already) an ad hoc network can be used exactly like what this is describing, but with better speed.]]>Apr 21st 2009 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
"Of course most of these can be accomplished using the right software or protocols over a wifi network, but they are not part of the wifi standard."

There is no simple way of, say, sending files from a wifi equipped device to another. Of course you could set a network, share a folder with permissions so that a friend can acces to the file you want, but that is not SENDING and, anyway, I dont think that you could even do that with most mobiles phones.

For the average joe it is much simpler to send a file via bluetooth and let the device take care of the means of transmission.

Same goes with wireless printing, which is mentioned in the article. I dont remember any phone havig the possibility of printing via wifi, but there are quite a few that support bluetooth printing.

And i don´t know about the DSi, but probably those peripherals use some proprietary protocol over an ad hoc wifi conection and, thus, will be unusable out of the box with anything but the DSi. In contrast, bluetooth profiles provide standards to make accesories and peripherals compatible out of the box without the need of installing any particular software or drivers.

And, regarding the transfer speed, there is not reason for the specification to evolve to 3.x and support higher speeds. Anyway, 24 Mbps seems a significant improvement over bluetooth 2 and more than enough to share your pictures or videos with your buddies.

Of course, they could make a standard to work in a similar fashion over just wifi, but that is another story]]>Apr 21st 2009 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/and it is your post which is obtuse, not chris´]]>Apr 21st 2009 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
This is not as bad since it is wireless so there is no "special cable" involved. What's worst are those connectors such as DVI, HDMI, VGA, USB, serial, etc... why not just all use CAT6 cable? It's all sending digital anyway.]]>Apr 21st 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
@Mark: iPhone OSv3.0 supports P2P services for things like transferring files and local multiplayer gaming but uses Apple’s Bonjour ZeroConf autodiscovery protocols for no fuss set up]]>Apr 22nd 2009 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
And 802.11g is supported on the 1st gen iPod touch... Not that Apple cares about 1st gen owners though.]]>Apr 21st 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 23rd 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 21st 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/Apr 22nd 2009 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/bluetooth-3-0-hs-gets-official-adds-speed-with-802-11/
I think on xda developer they were working on a widcomm stack or something that improved the sound quality but then it wouldn't work with voice command and other apps.]]>Apr 22nd 2009 10:31AM