http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/ Engadget Comments for Electronic voting outlawed in Ireland, Michael Flatley DVDs okay for now http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/
they are probably outlawed to give the current government/whatever a bit more time]]>Apr 28th 2009 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/
A. The politician next to you.
B. Some random guy across the street.]]>Apr 28th 2009 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/As a gadgetlover I normally like electronic stuff, but it's just not suitable for everything.]]>Apr 28th 2009 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and their doc, Hacking Democracy, eye opening stuff. pen and paper anyday.]]>Apr 28th 2009 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/
E-voting ur doin it wrong.

Paper voting ur really doin it wrong.]]>Apr 28th 2009 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Ofcourse Linux -sort of- has to do with electronic voting, but even that still is not the real issue here.

The main problem with ANY way of electronic voting, is that ultimately it CAN be tampered with.
Whatever machines or software you use, what kind of software, however many people or groups are checking if everything is done in a correct manner, there will ALWAYS be ways to somehow hack the outcome.
This makes the results of the election untrustworthy.
Just look at the cat-and-mouse game DRM has become, whatever the copyright-holders come up with, eventually hackers find a way to circumvent it. There is a lot of money at stake in the media-busines, but I think everyone agrees that there is even more at stake at most big elections.

Now, before people go and say that it's possible to tamper with 'paper-voting' too: you are correct.
Ofcourse, EVERYTHING can be tampered with.
The difference is, however, that in order to have a substantial impact on the outcome of a 'paper-voting', one has to get a VERY LARGE group of people willing to commit the fraud with you. So that means loads more work preparing the fraud, and bribing lot's and lot's of people (or somehow getting a lot of people who are allready on your side in to the system). It also means a lot more risk, because more people have a chance of screwing things up, and also more chance that somebode can't keep a secret after all is done. Effectively you would have to have people cheating for you in more than half of the voting locations. Though it could be done in theory, in reallity it is impossible to pul this of without the general public or journalists to see what's happening.
I think everybody here agrees that it takes a LOT less to tamper with (the output of) hardware/software. Here the government and the manufacturers of the hardware/software may claim it is impossible, but reality has proven them wrong in many cases already.]]>Apr 28th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Exactly wtf do you mean by "by using x kg machines"?]]>Apr 28th 2009 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/

so it's not really a saving at all]]>Apr 28th 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/
Indian EVMs are reused over and over again so I think it's still better off than making paper especially in a country where they have no clue of making it in a sustainable manner.]]>Apr 28th 2009 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/
In case you hadn't noticed, you can reuse the machines ;)]]>Apr 28th 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/For example, tripling the ministers pension payouts, and reducing the payments to single mothers with children. Effectively "scr*w the mothers, disabled and widows, gimme gimme gimme".

Business as usual for the Gov....]]>Apr 28th 2009 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/Apr 28th 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/electronic-voting-outlawed-in-ireland-michael-flatley-dvds-okay/
Not saying that it wouldn't happen else where. Clinton, George Jr, Obama, who the hell votes for these people??? I can't even imagine how these woefully under qualified politicians get to be on the ballot in the first place, much less how they won out over far more capable and less corrupt opposition. It's like the leadership of America is picked from the lowest common denominator.]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:01AM