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This has nothing to do with iPhone... this is about buying FAKE SHIT.

My cousin used to sell Chinese MP4 players on ebay when they were the big thing and many of them had GUI's and OS's that were so poor that they just stopped working - or crashed when you tried to turn them off.

with a company like Blackberry, Apple, Motorola...etc, I know that if my phone suddenly stops working, I can go to someone and get it fixed or replaced.

NOBODY and I MEAN NOBODY is going to Shen Zhen China to replace a HiPhone, IorGane or any of the other crap they sell.

PLUS, that stuff is filled with LEAD.]]>Apr 28th 2009 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
After that incident occurred, it was later discovered that it was the American company that designed it with lead based paint. The Chinese manufacturer just followed the American company's directions.

from http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/business/worldbusiness/21cnd-toys.html?_r=1

"Mr. Debrowski clarified that many of the units recalled this summer were magnetic toys that, though produced in China, were recalled because of a design mistake by Mattel."]]>Apr 30th 2009 2:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 30th 2009 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 30th 2009 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
Sounds pretty awesome, surprised we don't see more android phones because of this.]]>Apr 28th 2009 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 29th 2009 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
Those patent trolls do a lot to impact the price of "legit" devices.]]>Apr 28th 2009 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 29th 2009 6:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press_archive?month=04&year=2009&base_name=unauthorized_copies_are_not_co]]>Apr 28th 2009 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/That should be "cites".]]>Apr 28th 2009 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/meizu-m8-unboxing-and-hands-on/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/04/meizu-m8-gets-english-language-video-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/meizu-m8-prepped-for-full-scale-launch-ip-battle-with-apple/
to name a few]]>Apr 28th 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
Just ask Darth Vader and his vPhone: low power consumption lightsaber, asthma inhaler, blacktooth, 1080 MP camera (too be able to zoom into other galaxies), FREE Imperial March ringtone, and multi-THOUGHT sensitive screen. ]]>Apr 28th 2009 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
“Our phone is even better than the iPhone,” says Liu Zeyu, a Meizu salesman in Shenzhen. “Our goal is to create a phone that makes Chinese proud.”

As a Chinese person reading this article, I can tell you that I am not proud at all. True, that its not easy designing a touch screen phone that doesn't resemble an iphone based on shape and size..but since the OS of the M8 is Windows they could at least show some creativity and design an interface which makes it easier to use the phone instead of simply copying the interface used in Apple's iphone.

One thing I wonder is, if you buy a KIRF product don't you ever feel ashamed/embarressed whenever people see it and mistake it for the genuine item?]]>Apr 28th 2009 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/successful troll is successful.]]>Apr 28th 2009 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
now, i AM impressed that they can produce an iPhone knockoff that has all the functionality (if the claims in the original article are true) but at 1/4 of the price. if they can throw together the same kind of tech and I don't have to pay an apple tax, i wouldn't mind picking one up. (well, except that it's blatant theft of IP. maybe if these guys came up with some alternative designs that aren't a direct rip off of a preexisting product, this would be great, and something that i'd be proud of...)]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 30th 2009 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
I bet the folks that wrote the show don't even know that PearPC was one of the OSX emulators... in the happy days when we wished Apple would support Intel chips.]]>Apr 28th 2009 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 29th 2009 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/


(Monster cable sucks)]]>Apr 28th 2009 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 28th 2009 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/You hinted at it in your last podcast. You don't really know where they come from, how they come into be, the market they are made for, and so forth.

Get someone from Engadget China (is there such a thing?) to do a bit of research and interviewing and do a proper article on Chinese Phones.
It could be something genuinely interesting and and eye opening.

And I like "Shanzhai". Now you know the real name for these things...

(And these Monster cables... will mentioning them get my comment posted?)]]>Apr 28th 2009 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/Apr 29th 2009 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/I don't want to be forced into a 99 dollar a month everything plan to get the instinct or palm pre.]]>Apr 28th 2009 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
iorgane? lol]]>Apr 28th 2009 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cciii-new-york-times-undercover-edit/
Shanzhai literally means Mountain Village/Camp. Historically it connoted outlaw regions hidden in the mountains, beyond the reaches of government control (and tax officials). Of course, these cell phones aren't actually made in any sort of rebel encampments, but considering that most a huge amount of cell phones are produced in Guangdong province (which is very mountainous, with large factories tucked among hills), and anyone can run a full build-and-sale operation out of their home or shop with just a bag of components, it's not hard to see where the term came from.
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I think shanzhai has been debased to a degree by using it as an all-inclusive definition for cloning a well-known product or brand.]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:33AM