http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/ Engadget Comments for AMD's $69 2.8GHz Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition CPU launched, reviewed http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
Because of this, people are less interested in having the fastest system and more interested in having better portability, better battery life, lower power usage, lower noise, etc.

Also, people want better non-CPU components like graphics cards to play HD video and modern games. And now with cards like the $99 AMD 4770 and $100 Nvidia 9800GT, people can play modern games at High-res on a budget. Even light laptops/netbooks and SFF PCs that use the integrated Nvidia 9400 chipset can run HD movies and light-weight gaming.

------- On the other hand, (as an aspiring developer) I can't wait to finally see completely new applications of all this CPU and GPU power. Currently, there are very few uses of powerful CPUs (and GPGPU processing) outside of a few specific niches like 3D gaming, Pro graphics/video/modeling apps, scientific simulations, etc. I think an entirely new breed of software development will arise that uses all of the available processing power for never-before-seen applications and features that have been unavailable outside the lab and will greatly enrich the experience of the average user.

For example, think of easy-to-use but highly advanced image processing built into apps like Picasa or iPhoto where a novice can easily click a few buttons and:
- change/eliminate complex backgrounds in pictures
- flawlessly remove an individual out of a picture and have the remaining gap intelligently filled in to fit with the existing background.
- change the clothing styles or hairstyle of people in a picture
- intelligently combine multiple photos to take the best elements from each or to add different people together into one pic

I'm sure the possibilities with video will be even more amazing. and I'm not just talking about making things easier that currently require an expert, but wholly new ideas that are impossible today and which can be made possible with new algorithms and a lot of processing power...

ok you get the picture.. I've been typing too long..






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as far as Kuma's concerned 7750 is still better price wise and 7850 is pretty much a marketing tool to size up the Kuma series IMO. ]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
gotta admit i find it very funny the in this environment we all agree competition is a good thing... but with OS's Engadget commentators find it impossible to say the same thing xD peace out]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
And AMD needs to make better mobile chips.]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
When you don't have the budget to develop cutting edge, I guess it's best to find ways to shave down the price.]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
They didn't do an NVIDIA and rebrand an old card as a brand new unit :P E.g. 8800 to 9800 (8800 with die shrink) to GTX 250 (exact same card as the 9800) :)]]>Apr 29th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/I am not sure if upgrading my +4200 to this is that much... even so I have a credit card I should pay off and some students loans...

ARGH this makes me angry.]]>Apr 29th 2009 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/First price...second, performance.
I like some of Intel's CPU's, but if your looking budget don't seriously go for their "budget" over what AMD can offer at the same price. ]]>Apr 29th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
My old Athlon64 3000+ was a 2 in Vista, my £35 Pentium Dual-Core e2140 overclocked to 2.5Ghz was a 5.5.
You do the maths oh fount of knowledge.]]>Apr 29th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Jez AMD fans are getting as bad as Apple fans. ]]>Apr 29th 2009 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
Heh, my spell check wants to replace "Celeron" with "celery"... it'd probably perform about as well. :¬)]]>Apr 29th 2009 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
45nm, Phenom II based Ahtlon X2's aren't far off so i wouldn't call this a good upgrade option to systems with older Ahtlon X2's. Good option for a budget gaming box or media center PC when paired with a 780g motherboard :)]]>Apr 29th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
Customer: "I'm thinking of buying an Intel processor"
AMD Rep: "Knock yourself a pro slick. Gray matter back got perform' us' down I take TCBin, man'. "
Customer: "I'm sorry I don't understand."
AMD Rep: "Sheeeet, man, cutty say he cant hang."

-jp

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Black Edition means that the CPU's multipliers are unlocked, allowing for very nice overclocking. Do you honestly think that the average Joe that you described in your example will be buying a overclocking-optimized CPU? No.

Hmm. Let's see. The audience is those who actually shop for computer parts and like to overclock. Seems a bit different from what you try to say in your example.

Ergo, YOU FAIL.]]>Apr 29th 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
They said it ran stable for them, but YMMV.]]>Apr 29th 2009 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
It must have failed some tests for them to sell it as a dual core.
Or maybe it's just the higher demand.]]>Apr 29th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/Apr 29th 2009 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/amds-69-2-8ghz-athlon-x2-7850-black-edition-cpu-launched-revi/
Not that I would mind moving on to Core 2 or Core i7, but $69 is a nice deal for a low-hassle speed bump.]]>Apr 29th 2009 10:00PM