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@blindfromthesun

If your system does not detect as having hardware virtualization it could mean that it is disabled in the BIOS. Go into your BIOS setup and double-check that it is enabled. You may also require a BIOS firmware update if that feature is missing but your CPU manufacturer says your processor supports hardware virtualization.]]>Apr 29th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
it needs to be socket AM2 or better

i'm guessing yours is socket 939, like my x2 4200+]]>Apr 29th 2009 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
Buttery smooth power, people.]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
Just increase your vac advance and dial in a richer mix on the carb for the choppy idle, maybe re-gear to increase torque on the low end.]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
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Frankly, what's the big deal, almost all chips now can suppor virtualization. ]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/A large corporate environment isn't likely to upgrade to Windows 7 in the first place, as there is no Windows 7 specific software yet. And even if there was, large corporation are the slowest to upgrade, often skipping OS generations, if there is no compelling reason not to.
And why would they need emulation when they can run the real thing? Doesn't make even a tiny fraction of sense.]]>Apr 29th 2009 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
Ah, I see I'm not the only one to hold that opinion.]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/You're right, large corps do lag in upgrading. In fact, I am writing this on my lunch from my XP-equipped office machine. But I can think of some specific, custom made software we use that will not run properly in anything but XP, and cannot be upgraded easily or, in some cases, at all. Meanwhile, at some point The corporate world will have to start upgrading. Vista didn't bring it about, but 7 might. There are only so many generations you can skip before it starts to become a hinderance. And if that happens, many corps will want to upgrade everything at once (or pretty close to it). Making sure that their commonly used, highly customized (aka hard/impossible to rebuild for new OS) software still works is going to be important to some organizations.
It might not be an issue for all businesses, but I speak based on the knowledge that if the company I work for decided it was time to go Win7, our department would have much use for a true XP emulator.]]>Apr 29th 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
With Intel stuff, anything that says "Core2" should have at least some VT. With AMD Stuff, it goes back even further-- my quick check of wikipedia shows that they launched their stuff to support this in May of 2006.

At this point, the Intel Atom does not support this, but you have to take a moment and remember that Virtualization can take a lot of extra cycles to run, and processors that are marketed as cheap and low-power are not likely to be optimized for it yet.

As for the complaints about why microsoft makes such limitations, the simple explaination is that they are unable to make it work well until they got the processor manufacturers help them out.

If you want to the "XP Functionality" on a lower-tier version of Windows 7, or want to run it hardware without Intel VT or AMD-V, get a copy of VMware, Not only will it run on hardware without the virtualization tech, but the software-mode actually runs *faster* than the hardware mode on the older-models.

* Full Discolsure, I work in R&D at VMware, so I may have some bias.]]>Apr 29th 2009 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
This is Microsoft, you know they will probably have some archaic logo program to certify the supported processors...]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
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I was alluding to the Vista Capable fiasco and other "logo" programs where it seams to be more about selling a product than the product's actual capabilities. I really don't see how your comment is even relevant...]]>Apr 29th 2009 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
I seriously want to frame your quote and put it next to my computer. ]]>Apr 30th 2009 5:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
To my surprise my new Dell Vostro came with an Intel Core2 Q8200 Quad Processor which does NOT support VT.

Particular annoying since I cannot run 64-bit VM-Ware guest operating systems on a 32-bit host.]]>Apr 29th 2009 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
Actually on a reality side note, most people using a virtual environment are keen enough to know they need a virtualization enabled cpu, I think it's smarter for Microsoft to come out and let people know now instead of consumers (like normally) going crazy and complaining their computers won't run something - probably due to the fact they are trying to run software from 10 years ago ::cough cough::]]>Apr 29th 2009 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/AMD FTW!]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
For Core2Duo chart:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm

For Core2Quad chart:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2quad.htm]]>Apr 29th 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/It's like the old PS3's had a full PS2 shoved in their n played all PS2 games, but the newer ones had software emulation n only played 80% of games. And it'll probably be the specialist app's that businesses need that'll be in the 20% that don't work, and ass MS get most their sales form business 20% is a fair chunk of the market.]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Though as it's mainly businesses that'll want this if they had software that was XP only then I understand it, but most workstation CPU's support virtulization and WinXP mode is only in business n Ultimate.
It's another "Win 7 complexity" that only business n enthusiast have to bother with, and they know what there doing.]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
So there is no need to get all whiney over this. ]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/The average Joe consumer who would find the task of figuring out if their CPU supports VT will be the ones who have the 'complex' task of figuring out to buy a PC with Premium on or a netbook the Starter on.
The people who will be getting business or Ultimate will be the folks who know what their doing and can easily figure out if they have VT.
I was getting at the people who thought that 6 version of Win7 would be too complex.
Win7 is probably the least complex version of Windows ever to upgrade to. If your PC runs Vista it run's Win7, if your PC is less than 3 years old it'll run Win7. If your PC is older than 3 years old then an update to the land of now is in order.]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/
No, not by a long shot, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD-V#AMD_virtualization_.28AMD-V.29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors. It was first introduced with the Socket AM2 Athlon 64 X2s, and there are still plenty of socket 754 and 939 CPUs around that don't support it. I have two.]]>Apr 29th 2009 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/29/windows-7s-virtual-xp-has-intangible-system-requirements/Apr 29th 2009 8:39AM