http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
that's really too bad, as i had finally convinced myself that this was a better choice than the D90 (or the D5000 or T1i)

well, now it's settled. i'm getting a D90.]]>May 5th 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
1. GH1 has a mic input, and a custom mic that fits into the hot shoe (sold separately), but you don't have to worry about syncing in post from a separate audio source if you want good sound

2. 1080p

3. 720/60fps! Have you seen the slow mo footage this thing can shoot? D90 can only do 720, so no great slo mo
http://vimeo.com/4441911

4. smaller/lighter, compatible with canon and Nikon lenses with adapter

5. No rolling shutter in 720/60, 1080 has just the slightest amount of jello when whip panning. The d90 goes jello-vision with the slightest amount of handheld panning
http://vimeo.com/4438472

6. better color saturation
http://vimeo.com/4487113

7. Aliasing only visible under a microscope

8. No time limit on recording

Those were enough reasons to sell my D90 after I was fed up with the ever-present rolling shutter, crappy mono sound and no mic input, horrible aliasing and bad compression. For three hundred more, this is a steal. Check your local craigslist and see how many people are dumping their d90's right now.


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Ok, I think I'm done. Too many reasons, honestly.]]>May 5th 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
The regular G1 was pretty outrageous too and I got mine for entry level DSLR price. ]]>May 5th 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
of course, if youre a pixel peeper/negative nelly, nothing will ever be good enough for you except a Red or something. and people who have money for a Red certainly dont spend their time cruising engadget looking for opportunities to be wet blankets.

and while D300 really, truly does it for me in the trouser department, if i got this camera it would be for the movie capabilities. and in that capacity, the D300 facepalms itself. And even if the 5D mkII can swing it, this puppy is much smaller.]]>May 5th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
Also, could you explain what you mean by "loss of detail" due to the 4/3 sensor? I have only an Oly E-510, and it's every bit as detailed as any full frame cam if we're talking about a shot taken under similar circumstances. You're totally right that the higher-iso performance suffers, that's a significant limitation, but I don't think that detail (do you mean sharpness?) is a problem for this sensor.]]>May 5th 2009 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
By loss of detail I'm talking about optical constraints. Larger crop factors will require more lens resolving power to provide the same level of detail and sharpness. And you are right, smaller sensors don't necessarily have lower pixel resolution, it's more of a tradeoff between pixel density and noise, the less sacrifice on the resolution side, the more sacrifice on the high ISO performance side.]]>May 5th 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
Also worth keeping in mind, that this is new optics and it is specifically designed for the sensor size. The combo has much less problems compared to 35mm film lens fitted on digital camera with 1.6/1.5 crop factor sensor.

I'm shooting right now with Oly's E-520 and ZD 12-60 (24-120 eq.) lens and to me pixel-peeper the combination leaves very little to complain about.]]>May 5th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
But the limitation with lens selection can be overcome with time. I don't think the current small selection is anything against the micro-4/3 standard in the long run. However there is a much bigger issue at hand with lenses and the 4/3 standard. You should realize that your incredibly expensive Leica lens is still subject to the same laws of optics as any other lens. The optics of the lenses only has so much resolving power. And when your sensor is of a certain size, there's only so much detail your optics can provide, no matter how many pixels you pack into that sensor. This is why a crappy lens fitted on a full-frame DSLR can often blow very expensive lenses fitted on cropped DSLRs out of the water in terms of picture detail and resolution.]]>May 5th 2009 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
But for that price I can get a new DSLR AND a standalone Canon HD camcorder.

Bummer.
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Neither Engadget nor most of the commenters here seem to have a clue about the price-performance ratio of this camera or what is significant about its feature set.]]>May 5th 2009 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
Look at the low-light capabilities in video, its 5DMKii level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeCGmzV-010&fmt=22

http://philipbloom.co.uk/2009/05/02/kauai-sunset-lumix-gh1-slow-motion/]]>May 5th 2009 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
Hopefully the price will be down to at least around 1 large by then.]]>May 5th 2009 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
That being said, there's no other DSLR-type camera that has video capabilities like this (actual continuous autofocus) and usable Live View shooting with CDAF. Those are the skills that will sell this camera, not hitting that ISO 3200 shot across the indoor gym.

Plus, have you actually seen the size of this thing compared to a 5D? If I were hiking, etc., I'd much rather get the GH1.

I'm not interested in this camera (I don't need its capabilites), but knocking it in a comparison with a 35mm FF body (that sells for almost $2k) just doesn't make sense to me. A Lotus Elise may be a far worse truck than an F-150, but that doesn't make it bad for what it is intended to do.]]>May 5th 2009 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
If I am going to blow $1,500 on a camera, I may as well get the full frame, HD Video shooting one.]]>May 5th 2009 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
dont let it get to you. he cant afford to get either. just chalk the comments up to the lack of proper internal editing.]]>May 5th 2009 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
And the problem with shooting video on a true dSLR, besides the AF issues, is that you can't use the viewfinder. ]]>May 5th 2009 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
I guess Panasonic's enjoying having the market all to themselves. Hey... I wonder if this price is actually intended to help tempt Olympus (the other MFT launch partner) away from the wall and out onto the dance floor?

Eddy]]>May 5th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
u4/3 is in its infancy and it is hard to judge. And If Panay would continue producing exclusively such high-end optics with IS, I'm pretty sure that Olympus would be the #1 of u4/3 too.

Frankly I'm puzzled at Panay strategy. Having no cheap optics (to tap into entry-level prosumers) to complement their rather good bodies seems to be illogical. Especially considering that u4/3 has such a huge potential at entry level. Let's hope that Oly or Sigma would announce some good affordable optics for u4/3. But then one would loose IS, since both of them rely on IS inside body, while Panay puts IS into lenses... Still f***ed up picture for Panay u4/3 line up.

P.S. In contrast Olys produces now four lines of 4/3 dSLRs (from ~$300 to ~$1200) and 3 lines of 4/3 optics (from $pennies on ebay to $$$$).]]>May 5th 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/The lens is specifically developed for movies. Panasonic has stated multiple times how hard it was to make the continuous diaphragm and the silent autofocus. And then the camera itself. Which has enough processing power to fix barrel distortion while filming, is very compact and has a newly developed sensor.
Also the fact that Panasonic knows this is a groundbreaking camera won't help the price.
$1500 including lens is a steal. Stop crying. If you want to cry, check the Canon 18-200 lens, which is so bad you won't know if the lack of sharpness is from your tears or from the shitty optics. ]]>May 5th 2009 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/
I realise it is an extension to the G1, but still, it is a two handed affair?

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And also it isn't just for shooting video. More like 50/50 between that and still photography.]]>May 5th 2009 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 5th 2009 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/05/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-goes-up-for-pre-order-for-1-499/May 6th 2009 6:02AM