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looking forward to the content at ovi

most of 40,000 iPhone's apps are nothing when it comes to real application. enabling a function that iPhone should have is no big deal. any how if it means something to others. we'll be happy to have 20,000 coz we have every basic function that we require (copy/past, mms, bluetooth)

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Although somewhere around 90% of all the apps on the App store are worthless, the top 500 or so are great, and the best couple dozen are very unique. The iPhone does not need apps to enable regular features. All the primary features like Copy/Paste, MMS, Bluetooth, etc are all native in the new OS.]]>May 8th 2009 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
Believe it or not, we developers still struggle with non standards issues with Microshaft (png support, javascript DOM issues, the list goes on).

You need to upgrade from at least IE 3 or 6 to 7... Please!!!]]>May 8th 2009 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
I had a summer job at Microsoft and most of the employees used Netscape.

It was then that Microsoft rewrote most of it with a new browser engine; the combination of not being crappy, and (by that point) being pushed on every new PC, ensured they were finally able to take a massive lead.

Ah, the nostalgia... To remember when you could use phrases like 'not being crappy' (relative to the competition) about *any* Internet Explorer version... and that was about IE 4...!]]>May 8th 2009 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
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Steveorevo, this is why your opinion doesn't matter.]]>May 8th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
IE killed netscape because it was not only FREE, but it was the default installed browser on all new computers.... Clearly can't compete with that in those days..]]>May 8th 2009 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
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Seriously, no multitasking = saving battery? Facepalm apple...]]>May 8th 2009 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
40,000 apps and most of them are utter shit.]]>May 8th 2009 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
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but you know that the Iphone is so much better then... well everything.. right? /endsarcasm]]>May 8th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 11th 2009 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
Why is Nokia releasing a high end phone with a lackluster processor/gpu combo, resistive touchscreen, mediocre camera, and somewhat flaky Symbian S60 5th edition? Now I know on the OS they don't have a choice, and their Symbian Foundation OS is likely a ways off, so 5th edition is their stop-gap solution, but the other three seem somewhat inexcusable.

I mean, is it any wonder you can pre-order one right now unlocked for 450 dollars? Nokia knows they don't have a killer product, and will likely be outsold in the US market by the Samsung model that runs S60 with better hardware and more features, not to mention the Pre and 3rd gen iPhone. I no longer trust the future of Symbian as a platform or Nokia as a high end phone manufacturer.
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Why the 5MP camera? It's main competitor has a 2MP camera, possibly 3.2MP in the unannounced new version.

Of course it will be outsold in the US. That's not their primary market. Will it be outsold by the likes of the Pre worldwide? I doubt it.]]>May 8th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
Anyway, I personally think it's a good strategy to take for Nokia. I think people underestimate the importance of the iTunes Store in the success of the iPhone OS 2.0+. All that work put into the iTunes Store, not only technically and in terms of the user experience and cultivating a relationship with consumers, really helped Apple make the App store and the app purchasing / installation process work pretty much flawlessly. Where Apple has had a hard time is in the areas where they didn't have prior experience: online data synchronization (push e-mail, MobileMe), updating the entire user base's cellular data networking firmware at once, and the app approval system.

If anything, the success of the iPhone shows that you don't need cutting edge hardware to make a successful phone, but rather an optimized UI, functional content delivery and networking services, and if possible a large pre-existing user base (like iPod owners) who are familiar with all of that.]]>May 8th 2009 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
The only people who think a $200 iPhone is cheaper than a $500 unlocked Nokia are the ones who don't know the massive difference in pricing for AT&T's data plans depending on whether you get an unsubsidized phone vs. a subsidized one.

This is probably due to their parents paying for their data plans.]]>May 8th 2009 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
The 450 $ deal was a glitch. The cheapest you can get it is 630 before tax and shipping. I WISH I had jumped on the glitch bandwagon because they are honoring those that purchased it at the time.]]>May 8th 2009 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 9th 2009 2:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px9qFqgv7zc), then its bullshit!!!]]>May 8th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
Nothing stopping app developers from recoding their apps for multiple platforms, of course... it happens already, there are apps that are available for both iPhone and WinMo or whatever.]]>May 8th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/Nokia including songs as part of 20000?
Pathetic ,they r seriously hurting.
Their app store knock off is a fail!]]>May 8th 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 8th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/
Have high hopes for OVI though
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The Nokia Store is only for Nokia and their very best friends.

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The current store is horrible, they just recently changed it to the know difference from free apps and trial apps.

All of the apps are horrible, nokia tries to charge for everything , all of this Jamster stuff, remember them? screaming over your tv set to get cool new ring tones on your phone? yeah never in my life. Guess who owns jamster? Verisign, the security company.

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Number of apps in store at launch? Somewhat important, but only in the short term, for creating an impression that your device has been "accepted" by consumers.

Number of device buyers? Number of devs? Pricing structure? Not that important.

Monetary returns to dev - ah, now *that* is the important thing. All modern smartphone platforms are going to live or die based on third-party software, and the quality and amount of third-party software hinges totally on the returns to devs. If a platform can't show devs good returns at the start, then watch the platform stagnate and die.]]>May 10th 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/nokias-ovi-store-said-to-be-launching-with-20-000-items-unkn/May 10th 2009 8:37PM