http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/ Engadget Comments for Olympus' Micro Four Thirds throwback beauty set to launch early July http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/> "I'm willing to ditch my SLR system for good if results are promising."

Isn't point of a DSLR that you look through the lens, via the mirror and prism, to see exactly what you're shooting?

I hate looking at an LCD. That's very point-n-shooty.]]>May 15th 2009 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Having a lightweight, compact, lens-changing camera that's always with me >>>> Heavy SLR that I dread lugging around.]]>May 15th 2009 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/Plenty of journalists who had opportunities to carry SLRs carried Leicas instead. There are many good uses for a camera like this. Places where the advantages of this make it even better than an SLR.

There's no one best tool for every job.]]>May 15th 2009 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
The latter is not quite the same thing as the former. ]]>May 15th 2009 5:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/Isn't the point behind using DSLR getting a higher quality picture?]]>May 15th 2009 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/No, you get better image quality by having a larger sensor with larger photosites, combined with higher quality lenses. The body around it does not matter. The sensors in these micro 4/3 cameras are the same as in the Olympus DSLRs, and the lenses are pretty much the same but designed for a shorter lens mount to focal plane distance.]]>May 15th 2009 6:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Hence, The point of getting a DSLR is higher quality photos. People don't buy DSLRs just so they can look through a prism.]]>May 15th 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/Too bad, thats too expensive for me. And I really want this camera (with ultra-wide angle lens, buildings don't fit in the scene otherwise).]]>May 15th 2009 5:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Apparently Olympus marketing sets prices to pitch their cameras against competing' offerings. Oly's E-3 list price is literally the same as of Canon 5D, but you can find former literally twice cheaper than later. I got E-520 double lens kit for 650€ two weeks after release, while official price is still 800€.

Official Olympus prices should be simply ignored. Wait for street prices.

(*) Though they also said that Olympus aware of the problems that causes and they going to change the practice in future.]]>May 15th 2009 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
At $1000, though... I just don't know.]]>May 15th 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 2:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
:-s

RF.
www.zhaopianblog.com.cn]]>May 15th 2009 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Oh well - keep buying this junk if you like and wasting money. Your photo's will still suck.


]]>May 15th 2009 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Digital has plenty of detail. Yes, if you zoom in pixel for pixel you notice a lack of detail. But given that you can get a digital camera with 25 million pixels, you don't zoom in 1:1 very often. If you zoom in film as much as you zoomed in digital, it'd show a distinct lack of res too, unless perhaps you are using 40 ISO film or slower.]]>May 15th 2009 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
But that doesn't tell you the whole story. Because there are two distinct "resolutions" in an image. Chroma and Luminosity. While the chroma resolution is sampled from the three separate colors, each pixel contributes more to the Luminosity. This is similar in fact to how the human eye works.


"Oh well - keep buying this junk if you like and wasting money. Your photo's will still suck."
Yup. That's why professional photographers the world over have been taking breathless photos with digital for years now.]]>May 15th 2009 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Pro photographers as in press and sport? Of course! They demanded 135 before - so of course they demand and need digital. The rest of us don't need it and film is just as convenient and far more detailed and has such a huge dynamic range benefit too.

You want to sell a 1 metre x 1 metre print that will hang on a wall - then no - those photogs don't use digital. I had an exhibition last year and I sold about 20 shots and it is not even my job. Had I shot digital and made the same large prints - I doubt as many would have been sold. In fact I am sure of it, because I could not blow up the digital ones I had and print them as large. But the film ones through an enlarger onto real silver halide paper. Oh jeez louise - that is some pretty impressive stuff that the average digital jump on the bandwagon geeks owes himself to go an see in person at least once in their life.


]]>May 15th 2009 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 4:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Don't forget that even a 3MP film scan is about 9MP in digital as it is a linear CCD doing the scan, with one pass per colour (and IR too if needed) with 16bit per RGB channel.

I don't need to apologise. Put any two shots up side by side and it is night and day. Much like plasma vs LCD. But people still buy LCD and people will still waste money on digital and mistake the processed edge contrast that is added for "sharpness" and the world goes on.

Hey I even hear that people in the west still think that they will have a job in tech in the future too! Maybe that is why engadget is so up for the KIRF crap - fear. Oh and that Obama will change everything. Oh well - keep the self delusion going despite reality showing otherwise.

Lets talk about man made global warming now shall we? :-s

]]>May 15th 2009 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/I'd get that yellow fever seen to mate...its making you rather pompous and hilarious :)

cheap cameras, cheap film....cheap wifes ;-)]]>May 15th 2009 7:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/ Oh well - keep buying this junk if you like and wasting money. Your photo's will still suck.

Every time some idiot make such remark, I'm instantly reminded of one photo competition where 3rd place was awarded to photo made with 5yo P&S Canon.]]>May 15th 2009 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
What would you suggest? Foveon? Well as it is: Foveon is pretty low resolution...

the next best thing is a $20k sensor...

So, if this is just a digital camera bash, then you've come to the wrong place... Cause you ain't gonna convince anyone to listen to pops and clicks of your record collection either... If you're happy with film, good for you...]]>May 15th 2009 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
This may change with better technology being implemented in larger DSLRs, but as it stands now the smaller 4/3s sensor (at least with 720P on the GH1) appears to be able to be read fast enough to prevent the CMOS rolling shutter problem aka "Jello vision" that plagues HD video on the Nikon and Canon DSLRS. This fact alone makes the Olympus rangefinder above or the GH1 an excellent choice!]]>May 15th 2009 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 6:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 4:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 5:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
http://www.igorbass.com]]>May 15th 2009 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
And yes if they had a wide prime lens f/1.8 or bigger that is equivalent to 50mm or shorter definitely I'm going to buy one.]]>May 21st 2009 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Exchangeable lenses? Bigger sensor? Better optics?]]>May 15th 2009 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
The fact that you have to ask the question shows that you are not the target market for this camera so go ahead and get the G10.

"The G10 has all the manual controls and 14.7 Megapixels (!) of resolution which should make your images vibrant and natural"

This statement further proves that you are not the target market for this camera....... Plus you do know that the G9 (if you can find it), the predecessor of the G10 has gotten better reviews and is still more expensive and sought after that the G10. And that "only" had 10MP IIRC.

"Canon has always been the leader in professional photography"

The Nikonians will have something to say about this...( as will the Leica, Sigma, Fuji etc. fans.....)]]>May 15th 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Stop bringing up shitty cameras in comparison to aps-c sensor cameras... ]]>May 15th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
Sorry, but you show your ignorance by raving about the G10 and it's (nearly) 15 unnecessary megapixels. The G10 has nothing to offer over the G9 except extra megapixels. Extra megapixels are the last thing you need on a pinhead sized sensor like this.The G10 is nothing but a glorified, overpriced point and shoot. It doesn't do anything that a camera half the price won't do.

Pretty much all the Canon's used to have full manual controls. Now they are eliminating this, and their line is now mostly dumbed down junk. There is not a single Canon I would buy if my Powershot A650 died.

I am definitely in the market for a micro 4/3's system. I want a camera with a larger sensor and less noise. I like the Panasonic GH1, but it's not exactly pocketable. And it's pricey. The Olympus micro 4/3's interests me because it's so much smaller.

There is indeed a market for a camera like this. It can rival a big, clunky, heavy, noisy DSLR in image quality, yet be small enough to fit in a pocket and go everywhere with you. What good is a DSLR if you wind up leaving it home 90% of the time because you don't want to lug it around with you?
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See, this is what makes me cringe with Canon at the moment. I barely notice improvements on my Dad's 40D over my 20D and yet they brought out the 50D with too many pixels for the APS-C to handle it properly and reports aren't so good. Canon really don't need to chase the mega-pixel race. The 60D would do them a lot of good if it were a 15-megapix full-frame and restore their quality in that sector of the market, because the 20D with its 8.2 megapixels wants for very little in terms of ultimate resolution, whilst people seem to castigate the 50D for having too many on, crucially, too small a sensor.

DSLRs are too good to succumb to the petty nature of the compact and bridge market, but sadly it seems they have/will.]]>May 15th 2009 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
With the retro styling of this, plus a bigger sensor, I would look at one of these if it were £500 max, but any more than that and I'd rather get another EOS body, as I have lenses already.]]>May 15th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/2x crop.

I wish it was a bit bigger.]]>May 15th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/
I should also point out that the crop factor is a bit deceptive. It's 2x based on the diagonal of a 135 frame. The problem is that Olympus uses a different aspect ratio. If Olympus had gone with the more conventional 3:2 shape, but with the same surface area, it would actually be a 1.88x crop.]]>May 15th 2009 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/olympus-micro-four-thirds-throwback-set-to-launch-early-july/May 15th 2009 8:40PM