http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/ Engadget Comments for Datel gets first stab at third party memory card for Xbox 360, supports microSD expansion http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
I despise MS' accessory strategy. This is an improvement, because now instead of overpaying for inferior junk like the Wireless Racing Wheel, we can overpay for decent junk. But I wish they would just relent and go to a strategy like Sony's accessory strategy where we don't have to overpay to line MS' pockets.]]>May 16th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
The steering wheel is top notch. You obviously don't have one, so I'd recommend trying it before making anymore comments about it. Also, the 1st party controllers are top notch, the keypad is top notch, the wireless ear piece is just fine, and the camera does exactly what it needs to do.

Most third party accessories, with the exception of chargers and fans, are junk that only sells because it's much less expensive than the quality Microsoft accessories. The madcatz steering wheel is a horrible piece of crap and the off brand controllers are no better than the original controllers (unless you have tiny hands).]]>May 16th 2009 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
Worth noting: static IP addresses seem to cause the Xbox to have trouble with UPnP. So keep 'em on DHCP.

The Xbox 360's wireless adapter is absurdly overpriced, there's no way around it. It's a USB plug attached to a $5 Atheros or Broadcom wireless chip attached to a length of thin wire they call an antenna. I like my Xbox 360, but there's no denying that the 360's wireless adapter is one of the biggest accessories ripoff ever. It was a ripoff in 2005, and it's even more so now that you can often find wireless G adapters for near free on sale.]]>May 16th 2009 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/You're wrong about the wireless racing wheel. Don't call me a liar for saying I don't own one. You don't know me.

Here's my review. Try to tell me how I'm all wrong about the hole in the pedals or thow it's okay that the clamp lets the wheel come off the desk, so that the feedback system causes the wheel to hop around.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8306241&publicUserId=5710934

The wireless headset was crap. It worked fine on some 360s and on many it did not and it could not be fixed.

http://xbox.joystiq.com/2006/11/09/joystiq-video-review-of-wireless-headset/

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/13/microsoft-addresses-wireless-360-headset-issues/
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Um, MS's steering wheels literally burst into flames. That's not top notch. That brings new meaning to red ring of death

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2007/08/23/microsoft_to_fix_360_steering_wheels/1

Apparently, a number of users have been having problems with the steering wheel - problems like it starting to spew out plumes of black, resinous smoke when used in wired mode. It's speculated that, since the problem only occurs when the power supply is in use, that it may not be a fault with the wheel per se, but rather a problem with the rest of the system.

Still, we may as well take this chance to ask: how little do Microsoft know about overheating when even the official steering wheel is bursting into flames?]]>May 17th 2009 5:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
Sony is not making a lot of money off their accessory strategy. And since that money would come out of my pocket, I'm glad of it.]]>May 16th 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
So yeah, I am condemning Microsoft for taking a cut of memory cards. And hard drives. And awful racing wheels.]]>May 17th 2009 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 17th 2009 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 17th 2009 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
So, this isn't a security risk at all. Pretty much every file on the 360 is signed and even then the hypervisor shuts down pretty much any attacks. There was a King Kong shader hack a while back and a downgrade exploit, but those have long since been disabled by firmware updates.]]>May 16th 2009 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
None of the official drives are WD BEVS. There are a few different drives used in them, but the BEVS is not one of them. The BEVS was simply the one that TheSpecialist wrote his tool for, so that you could use them to build your own on the cheap.]]>May 16th 2009 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
Go troll somewhere else, Fanboy]]>May 16th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
Seriously, what's your point?
Yay accessories are expensive, they bring in money for console makers. What does this have to do with the secondary market for games? Second hand games aren't putting cash in the developer's or microsoft's pockets.]]>May 16th 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/23/microsoft-q309-xbox-division-loses-31-million-360-sales-up-30/

Microsoft's games division is not in the black either.]]>May 16th 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
But as a consumer of gaming devices, I prefer lower prices on accessories and I prefer higher quality accessories. Accessories are cheaper on PS3 in general because Sony doesn't take a cut and the breadth of 3rd party accessories means I can get a high quality headset if I want, instead of buying MS wireless headset and finding out it doesn't work. Same with wheels. The awful wireless racing wheel really hurt my enjoyment of Forza 2. If I could have used a 3rd party wheel, especially one of the Logitech wheels I already own (like I can on the PS3 with GT3, GT4 and GT5P) then I would have enjoyed the game more.

I don't see how the accessory market makes it so there are more games for 360. If it did, there would be less, because except for the excellent bundled controller (and to a slightly lesser extend the keypad), the 360 has a lineup of pretty unremarkable to lousy accessories.

Look at the PS3 for example. The PS3 keypad is a turd. Only a fool would buy it. But you can buy a Logitech keyboard instead if you'd like. You don't even have to buy a PS3-branded one, I use my Apple Bluetooth keyboard instead. What happens on the 360 side if you don't find MS' keypad acceptable? You have no alternatives.]]>May 16th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
You can just use a regular usb keyboard with the 360 if you want no bluetooth]]>May 16th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/MICROSOFTRULEZ!!!]]>May 16th 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
The Caps Lock key is located to the left of the A button, below the Tab button and above the left shift key. Please press this button. Thank you.]]>May 16th 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
THANKS FOR THE TIP, NOW I DONT HAVE TO HOLD THE SHIFT KEY!!!!

>_> I'm kidding of course ^__^]]>May 16th 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/]]>May 17th 2009 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/Press Alt and then F4! Oh it is truly hilarious!]]>May 17th 2009 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/]]>May 17th 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
If Datel wants to make something that will sell, they should come up with a way to use aftermarket hard drives with the 360. It's downright criminal for MS to charge $150 for a 120gb drive when you can pick up a 320GB drive for less than half that.]]>May 16th 2009 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/
Is there a huge market for something like this? No, definitely not. But this is essentially my dream memory card, and at 4GB for $50, it's priced the same as Microsoft's 512MB card. I'd say that for whatever reason, if someone's looking for a card instead of a drive, Datel's is such a better deal it's ridiculous. Unless, of course, MS takes action against it somehow, like DWells55 points out.]]>May 16th 2009 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/16/datel-gets-first-stab-at-third-party-memory-card-for-xbox-360-s/May 16th 2009 3:25PM