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Strange.]]>May 25th 2009 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
Will def. be getting when this launches in Canada.. whenever that is.]]>May 25th 2009 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 12:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/johnvizzle/pre2.png]]>May 26th 2009 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 1:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
apple has been ripping the palm pre for the last few months.

and I say that as an iphone dev on os 3.0

you shoudl be glad for the pre or you'd of NEVER HAD COPY AND PASTE]]>May 26th 2009 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
While I'll agree with you about Apple getting off their lazy, complacent asses because of the Pre. You can't really diss them for adding a feature that has been a part of OS X for years.]]>May 26th 2009 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
All you need to do is slide out the keyboard and search for anything on or off the phone. Fantastic. Android has 2-3 programs that do something "similar" to that, but they are no where as elegant or amazing as Universal Search. And you'd think Google's OS would nail "search"... instead of the crappy widget they have on the homescreen.

I hope they can add a "YouTube" option to the Universal Search. Is it customizable?]]>May 26th 2009 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
But, "the crappy widget they have on the homescreen" is a little harsh. I agree in 1.0 it was useless, I actually removed it to make room for more shortcuts, but now that Cupcake's voice recognition is so damned good, its nice to have easy access to voice search with that widget.

Hopefully Android 2.0 will use that voice rec. engine as a text input device, because you could seriously dictation whole SMSs or emails if you were in the car or something, its that good.

Back on topic... I've been waiting to see more concrete stuff on the Pre before doing this, but it looks more and more like I'll be recommending both my parents to get Pre's as soon as they are out.]]>May 26th 2009 12:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
This looks like a fantastic product, its UI is beautiful, it's more than just an iPhone clone: its gesture area is innovative, its cards handling of multitasking looks great. But it's not perfect.

(1) Everyone seems to be getting their panties wet about universal search, but "universal" seems to be a complete misnomer. Firstly, one cannot search e.g. memos, tasks etc from the standard universal search dialogue: one needs to be in the app. Secondly, one can't search for composite terms (e.g. "Mike cisco" to get all the Mikes who work for Cisco (example in the vid)).

(2) Synergy is a fantastic idea, but it's a little disappointing at the moment and needs some refinement. It currently syncs with Gmail's "all contacts" (≠ "my contacts"), which means EVERYONE you've ever emailed in Gmail. Similarly (but somewhat less objectionably) it syncs with all one's Facebook friends, and there seems to be no way to delete entries: next time one syncs they will be replaced (or deleted from GMail entirely). Palm needs to get some filtering on this - I know there may be a lot to be said for having a huge searchable book of contacts, but combined with the limitation on searching identified above, this doesn't seem to be a great solution. Plus you may end up with a fugly address book 90% full of people you will never call.

(3) Two taps to get to the apps seems unnecessary.

(4) It's not as "synced" as it could be; e.g. task dates don't link with the calendar; there's not even an option for it.

There were a few other limitations noted in the vids that have slipped my mind. To be clear, none of these points are a deliberate comparison to the iPhone; e.g. iPhone doesn't even have tasks implementation. I just want to see Palm sort out these little foibles (and of course, they may do so by release, although it seems unlikely).

Furthermore, can we please get rid of all this "Apple did multi-touch first", "Palm invented universal search and Apple copied it" etc. Aside from the fact that we don't know whether each company was working on the tech before their competitor released their product (I'd find it hard to believe that Spotlight wasn't in the works before the Pre), who came first simply doesn't matter. The important issue is whose implementation of each of these features is best NOW.

Rant aside, this thing looks fantastic. Particularly excited about the gestures. Hope they get it to the UK mighty fast, and here's to some decent head-on iPhone competition. Sorry for the long post, innit.]]>May 26th 2009 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
Basically this thing has to be perfect. Or more perfect than the iPhone.]]>May 26th 2009 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 12:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
As far as the Pre goes...I really want this damn phone. Don't know how I'm going to get one yet though...may end up having to sell a kidney or something. It's like the phone of my dreams]]>May 26th 2009 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
You can receive and make calls, you just can't use any of the data driven environment whilst on the phone. Forget checking an email your caller just sent you, or retrieve a location via maps to send to a user. Forget browsing for information during calls. It's either one or the other.]]>May 26th 2009 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
how come the guy in this video is demon google maps search and wile using the phone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV9UpQu9muc&feature=channel_page


they actually say in the video u can be on the phone to place u looking for wile looking them up on google maps

so unless i am wrong u think u can browse and use the phone at the same time ]]>May 26th 2009 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
See second part of Q&A. He explains why it "seems" like it can. This huge limitation still holds true. ]]>May 26th 2009 2:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
The demonstrator is using an emulator on a MAC with the Firefox browser, he is not actually using the Pre. ]]>May 26th 2009 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
There is no "Natural limitation of the network", simultaneous voice/data was successfully demonstrated on EVDO Rev-A a few years ago by Qualcomm. Sprints QChat (push to talk) service uses VoIP via EVDO (the data side) instead over Sprints voice network. It is possible via VoIP, Sprint will not enable it because the calls show up as data, currently Sprints bulling system cannot differentiate what kind of data is being used, only that data is being used.

Currently EVDO Rev-A devices have the capability to do VoIP, Sprint will have to send out a Firmware update, EVDO Rev-O device cannot do VoIP due to latency issues.]]>May 26th 2009 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
And as for the data/voice thing: the truth is, guy, you sort of don't get it. On my EDGE iPhone the problem wasn't that I wanted to use the internet while I was on the phone, it was the other way around - while I was surfing the web and pulling down data, all calls go straight to voicemail - you can't get a phone call. THAT is the problem. Allowing both was a big advance with the 3G model for me.]]>May 26th 2009 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
If this is a "huge limitation", then I think you should be rethinking the way you live your life and how (in)efficiently you do things.]]>May 26th 2009 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
Oh I can barely hear you.... I suppose you have never worked in a corporate environment when proposals and deals are moving at a rapid pace while on the go. You need that information just as you head to the meeting room. HQ can be in the east coast, while I may be on the west coast. While conversing, view data, amend, resend, view, approve. But why explain it to you? You obviously have never experienced the responsibility of managing several million dollars in which your quick, informed decisions falls upon you. ]]>May 26th 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/

"Obviously your associates aren't doing their jobs properly if they're that behind that they're getting info to you that you should have had already. Even then, you're not going to be talking on the phone and checking emails while you're entering the meeting room."


Confirmed. You have never worked in a large corporate environment, let alone budgeting several million dollars.

@Mr Clickerson, who used to be Zues God, but no more how sad. = FAIL!!!

]]>May 26th 2009 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 28th 2009 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
Rather that participate as an adult, you always revert to perverse suggestions, personal attacks. That is why you FAIL each and every time. Your title above befits you.]]>May 28th 2009 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 28th 2009 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 28th 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/]]>May 26th 2009 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 26th 2009 5:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/

just wanted to correct you when you said that when an iphone is on edge the calls go straight to voice mail.... that is completely false and i say that cuz i use to own a 1st generation iphone and currently own the 3G.... everytime i would go online wit edge the call would still go through but if you were to accept the call you wouldnt be able to continue your online session. im pretty sure the same is going to happen here wit the pre..]]>May 27th 2009 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/May 27th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/more-palm-pre-emulator-videos-emerge-universal-search-calendar/
It's a beautiful phone, with a slick OS and a physical keyboard, which I love. I'm happy to see the guys at Palm throw some juice into this market.

I'll get this guy and have him until I get my Star Trek touchpad.]]>May 27th 2009 12:44PM