http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/ Engadget Comments for Nokia's Ovi store makes soft landing in a few markets, might be headed to your neck of the woods soon http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/Oh Very Interesting.......Hmmmm I think I just spelled out what OVI might mean.

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1 star = Bullshit, Poor or Gabbage
2 star = Good, Not bad or On par
3 star = Excellent, Superb or Outstanding]]>May 25th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
On the other hand there is something to be said about keeping it simple. I wasn't aware until I read the wiki article on star rankings that 3 is (or was) the standard for food reviews. I can see saying that anything much higher then that just leads to inflation. Good, bad, indifferent.

Here is the wiki article on star rankings. Kind of interesting:
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The concept of an app store isn't new but a rebranding of the way people distribute and download packages and softwares for their Linux distros through online repositories. Apple may call is revolutionary or innovation but its basically a similar concept.

Also Nokia's Ovi is also a rebranding of their previous central place for sharing and distributing mobile content, i.e. Nokia MOSH. MOSH was launched an year earlier in August 2007 compared to the App Store (launched in July 2008).]]>May 26th 2009 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
The concept of an app store isn't new but a rebranding of the way people distribute and download packages and softwares for their Linux distros through online repositories. Apple may call is revolutionary or innovation but its basically a similar concept.

Also Nokia's Ovi is also a rebranding of their previous central place for sharing and distributing mobile content, i.e. Nokia MOSH. MOSH was launched an year earlier in August 2007 compared to the App Store (launched in July 2008).]]>May 26th 2009 7:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/Big difference to App Store where developer gets 70%.]]>May 25th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/



Devloppers get 70%.

Operators get small cut, but only if purchase is charged through operator billing. Its nowhere near 40%]]>May 25th 2009 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
The deleloper takes 70% of Gross sales, net of refunds and returns, less applicable taxes and, where applicable, fixed operator billing costs.]]>May 25th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/That share policy on apps that are paid via operator invoice was on finnish it-press well over month ago:
40-30-30.

Nokia also takes first 500€ of sales and registrationfee per app is 50€.]]>May 25th 2009 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
Ok then. Give us the link to that source.

Otherwise shut the fuck up.]]>May 25th 2009 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
Nothing to fo with reality.]]>May 25th 2009 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/@Mark Andersson.

Enjoy ! (Details on those othor charges you can find from Ovi yourself)
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''Nokian mukaan kehittäjät saavat myyntituloista 70 prosenttia, operaattorin osuuden ja kulujen jälkeen. Eric John arvioi, että operaattorin osuus on tyypillisesti 40 prosenttia myyntihinnasta. Kehittäjillä on kuitenkin mahdollisuus myydä ohjelmia myös ilman operaattoria, mutta tällöin ohjelma ei näy puhelimessa olevassa sovelluksessa.''
http://www.tietokone.fi/uutta/uutinen.asp?news_id=37455]]>May 25th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
dont like quoting gizmodo on here...but they did a nice round up of them all a while back:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/04/giz_explains_app_stores.png


nokia has no developer fee, unlimited listings, and 70% commission to developers. less if billed through the mobile operator, which wont happen in the USA anyway with at&t not backing any real s60 phones.]]>May 25th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
Translation please. Finnish is a fine language bu I'm betting 95% of the people here don't speak it.]]>May 25th 2009 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
"Richard: You have indicated that several operators will integrate Ovi Store with their billing – how will this affect the publicised 70/30 revenue split?

Eric: I believe we have been clear that the revenue split is after operator billing charges and any applicable taxes. Typically operator billing charges will be around forty per cent of the purchase price. However, this needs to be considered against the fact that operator billing offers a seamless purchase process to the user. This normally results in a higher level of sales compared to credit card purchases.

Richard: Despite the benefits of using operator billing, some developers may want to compensate for what they see as a loss of revenue, will they be able to do that?

Eric: Developers are able to pick the price at which their application sells, and that will be the price to consumers whether they choose to buy with a credit card or via operator billing. Developers can however choose which markets to sell into, they could make their application available exclusively for credit card based purchases or choose to sell exclusively via operator billing or use both channels.

It's a question of how much reach the developer wants to give their application. I certainly think that the ease-of-use and user acceptance of operator billing easily outweighs any perception of lost revenue from paying for the operator’s billing charges.

Perhaps the most important issue here is transparency and we plan to be open with developers about exactly what revenue splits will be taking place. I believe this is all clearly laid out in the terms and conditions, so everything is on the table. Ultimately we want to work with developers to optimise sales, get as many applications onto as many devices as possible, and help them grow their businesses.!"

So, there's a option to pay through operators phonebill if wanted, but not mandatory. Developers can still sell it with only credit card.]]>May 25th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/--
According to Nokia developers will get 70% of the sales after operator fee and other fees have been deducted.
Eric John estimates that operators will take typically 40% of the saleprice. Developers have a chance to sell apps also witout operator but those will not appear in the application of the phone.
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Happy now ? Not my fault that Nokia getting the operators eat the pie. Apple has negotation power to skip
operators from the revenue sharing of App Store but that's not Nokia's way.]]>May 25th 2009 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
Actually, he's right. The above screenshots have a lot of visual cues that Nokia haven't used before and which look awfully similar to Apple's way of doing things. They also use Apple's business model (the 70:30 thing).

I don't really care much that they're copying Apple, but I don't like that they're copying anybody. Why isn't anyone challenging the 70:30 ratio and trying to promote their platform by giving developers a bigger cut? That would be a much better strategy than the "me too" plethora of mobile application stores we're seeing.]]>May 25th 2009 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/
Check those screens in a month or two. They'll look exactly like the iPhone 3 screens except for some minor spelling mistakes.]]>May 25th 2009 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/ ;)]]>May 25th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/May 25th 2009 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/25/nokias-ovi-store-makes-soft-landing-in-a-few-markets-might-be/

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