http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/ Engadget Comments for Dell's Mini 10v gets unboxed, cracked wide open, fitted with OS X http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 2:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/20/dells-mini-10v-shown-running-a-plethora-of-operating-systems-c/]]>May 31st 2009 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/Well I guess it's a challenge, but not anything to take seriously.
Apple designed their computers with OS X in mind, using specialized top notch hardware.
Using any generic PC hardware is just asking for trouble.
Even if OS X could work well on PCs it still wouldn't be the Mac Experience, just a cheap clone. ]]>May 31st 2009 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/What? The components of a standard mac are exactly the same as the ones you'd find in a standard PC.

"Even if OS X could work well on PCs it still wouldn't be the Mac Experience, just a cheap clone."
If OS X was working well, how is that not the Mac Experience?
Thousands of people use OSX on their mini9 every day (me included) and am perfectly happy with it.]]>May 31st 2009 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
Why? What is so special with mac hardware?]]>May 31st 2009 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
1. For a start it looks better, so when you're using photoshop you're inspired to make better looking graphics.
2. It's just better
3. It's cheaper to buy a Unibody Macbook body than it is to buy the materials and machinery to make one, therefore: cheaper.]]>May 31st 2009 2:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
1. If you need to look at a pretty machine to get inspiration to make better things in photoshop, you suck at inspiration.
2. No, it's not.
3. No, it definitely isn't.


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Idiot. ]]>May 31st 2009 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/Did you really miss his sarcasm? Really?]]>May 31st 2009 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
.. and Jim is a 'tard for the $1000 comment. Hell, I've spent days tweaking OS X on the Thinkpad, and I can't ever do software updates or anything. If you want a Mac, it's well worth a few extra bucks to get the real deal.

The Thinkpad is just a hobby, since I already have it and don't need to spend $1300 on a new laptop when I already have one, and a Mac Pro for my "real Mac" needs.]]>May 31st 2009 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
That has never happened with any of the dozen Dell computers I've used. ]]>May 31st 2009 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
Here's the deal: OSX is definitely extensively tested and verified on the specific hardware in use in Macs, and they certainly create customized hardware drivers and firmware, but the hardware components themselves are the very same generic, high volume parts that other vendors use. And although most of the time Apple uses the latest Intel CPUs and platforms, they also can lack many features of other premium-priced computers and can at times use very outdated components - particularly GPUs.

some key examples:

- Previous to the latest revision, Apple's Macbook ($1100-$1500) and desktop Mac Mini were both using crappy integrated graphics from Intel. Worse, the Mac Mini was using a 2-year old chipset with the GMA950 when two newer generations of Intel chipsets and integrated graphics were widely available!

- Previous to the latest revision just recently, Apple's iMac was actually using graphics cards from ATI's ancient 2000 series while the TWO-GENERATIONS newer 4000 series was widely available! And the only upgrade was to an equally old card from Nvidia's 65nm 8000 series!

- Even today, the newest iMac comes standard with Nvidia 9400 integrated graphics on the $1200 and $1500 configuration! Thats lunacy! Even the most expensive $2200 model only comes standard with an Nvidia "GT130" (a REBRAND of the "8800 GS" from the OLDER model) and costs extra for a Radeon 4850 ---- which is only available on the two most expensive configurations.

- Their current Macbook doesn't have Firewire, eSATA, or an expresscard slot. Many would argue that it is not critical for average users to have these features, but I would offer that for $1500 it should have them.]]>May 31st 2009 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
with a MacBook running $999... can you point me to the PC laptop that is available for -$1.

sounds like a steal. literally.]]>May 31st 2009 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
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The only thing I agree with Miles on is the "Apple experience". There is more to a computer than the OS. You don't get multi-touch on a Mini9's trackpad. You don't have a standard "Apple" keyboard. The Mini9 is not exactly the prettiest, best-constructed computer out there. That's the Apple experience.

That being said, OSX runs just fine on regular old hardware. Every piece of hardware in a Mac is Windows compatible. That's how Boot Camp works. That's how Parallels and VMware work.

Don't buy a netbook for a speedy experience. I love my Mini9 Hackintosh, and I use it to take to construction sites when I do consulting work. I don't want sawdust in a $2000 MacBook Pro, but a $250 netbook? fine....]]>May 31st 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/Jun 1st 2009 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
The fact that it is hackintoshable is icing on the cake. ]]>May 31st 2009 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/I thought OSX didn't support the GMA500, unless the 10v comes with the GMA950?
What's the difference between the 10v and the regular Mini10? Can you get the 720p screen on the 10v? What about the TV tuner?]]>May 31st 2009 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
btw, hackintosh user here...
running retail leo w/ a 3.8gz overclocked c2d
9800gtx+sc
built for less than $400

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And what is with the 640x424 res? ]]>May 31st 2009 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
Is this new for the 10v?]]>May 31st 2009 3:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
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I love the macs/osx - but hate when they have problems that apple don't want to fix or acknowledge (happened to me a few times now). If I would like to have a STABLE system I can easily carry around the world + have it somewhat cheap and lightweight AND apple have not been able to deliver that (yet), why should I not be allowed to do so? Fully accepting that the warranty is void on the software if I do so - but come on... who has EVER gotten money from either microsoft or apple to compensate "loss of data" on "official" systems anyway? ;-)

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And the licence conditions clearly state that you can only install it on an Apple computer.

If you don't like that, then you shouldn't buy it.]]>May 31st 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
Just because it's there doesn't mean it's right. EULAs just like contracts can be struck down in court. ]]>May 31st 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/It's not illegal.
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Your macs have the SAME parts as pcs. Same GPUS ... same CPUs .... same RAM (but 3x the cost) ... same everything. Your macs just have different software and a prettier exoskeleton.]]>May 31st 2009 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/
I personally moved from windows pc to a Mac mini to now having my own hardware that runs osx. It's not because I dislike apple hardwares, I would get a apple laptop once I have the need for mobility, its just I am more of a person who enjoys tinkering around the desktop components. ]]>May 31st 2009 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/May 31st 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/31/dells-mini-10v-gets-unboxed-cracked-wide-open-fitted-with-os/If they think it's worthy (and I do) they might post it and you will get allot of good comments. ]]>May 31st 2009 12:58PM