http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/ Engadget Comments for Sprint and Palm admit that they don't expect wild lines for Pre http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/just like the iPod
you can't out iPhone the iPhone
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"Get a life... Get an iPhone."

I know you iFans need to really go 200% douche for this one, but that was really pretty pathetic even for you. You aren't even really trying to hide the mass trolling/flamming attempt over this device.

Apparently your already weak ego that requires you to live through your Apple logo, must be really be at a low ebb over the Pre.
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Astroturf Different.]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
So instead of having loads of people turn up and virtually none of them walk away with a new phone, they're trying to encourage people to be in no rush. As, if people do think there's going to be a shortage, they'll be rushing through the doors as soon as they open, exacerbating the situation even more.]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
Have you heard of a Sprint store? Bestbuy/Radioshack are the 3rd party retailers, the vast majority of the Pre's sales will be from Sprint stores. ]]>Jun 4th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Your right.. The iPhone is vastly superior.. thank god they are the number 1 selling smartphone..
Oh wait.. RIM outsells Apple in smartphones ?!?!? Damn.. ]]>Jun 4th 2009 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
Are you serious? I do not know how many times someone has to say, "there will not be a new OS for the iphone, 3.0 is an update." Also, this "alleged" new CPU, will be the same CPU in the iphone 3G which is under clocked to 400MHz. The max of that CPU is 600MHz, again, it will be the same CPU in the next "alleged" iphone. Apple will unlock the CPU up to it's max. Many analyst have said not to expect drastic changes in the next "alleged" iphone.]]>Jun 4th 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/

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I'll blame the lack of interest in the Pre to marketing! Where the heck was it??

My roommate is a regular guy, work 9-5 in an IT company and he's with Sprint (been with them for 8 years). And if it wasn't for me babbling on-n-on about the phone...he wouldn't even have known. Where as EVERYONE and their uncle knew about the iPhone 1st G and it's launch.]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
beautiful but simple and basic product + huge and effective marketing = profit.]]>Jun 4th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/pfff]]>Jun 4th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
*facepalm]]>Jun 4th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
...and as a phone, well, it feels good in your hand and sounds great, call quality was stellar. (left myself a message on my Centro's voicemail, to check later) Stereo bluetooth headset support worked like a charm and sounded great. I loved being able to plug my headphones from my iPod without a stupid adapter, as well.

Haven't been this excited about a new phone since getting my 1st Treo (650) But, the Pre takes it to a whole new level.



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Radioshack's selling them. But don't expect any in Northern California - Cell phone sales are higher in SoCal, so expect some in the LA region or thereabouts.]]>Jun 4th 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
What store are you at? I was going to take a drive by a few local stores tomorrow night to see if any others where out there yet.]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
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K-I-S-S-I-N-G ...]]>Jun 4th 2009 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
Most importantly, the device should have been launched in April to be a hit, but instead Palm has picked a horrible date to ship the device out to the stores -- two days before Apple present their third iteration of the iPhone. I mean, what were they thinking? They had the chance to shine during the spring when a new iPhone was distant but now when it's a few days away from public unveiling, all the early adopters will be holding on to their money to money in wait and anticipation for what Apple has to offer. I'm not an Apple fanboy by any means and I'm all for competition, hell I have a Zune80 but Palm's timing is simply poor. And manufacturers should stop unveiling phones 6 months ahead of launch because the phone often just end up looking ordinary when it hits the store. ]]>Jun 4th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
No matter when anyone launches anything, some dipstick will show up to point out some Apple event, and tell us how "bad" the timing is.

Macworld

WWDC

Back-to-school

Christmas

It's the same old song and dance that somehow a company NEEDS to time their product around Apple, as if people are just so stupid that they cant evaluate products side by side and come up with a purchasing decision on their own. Maybe this is the case for teens and nerds online, but most people have the tendency to test and use a variety of devices before they settle.

If Palm sell out the initial stock of Pre phones, no matter the size, they can be assured that it will be noted in the press. On top of that, people will be seen with them. Folks will ask about them, and buzz will develop. Palm can run the ads at their own pace.

It's not like everyone's contracts end at the same time, and Apple is the one that has to keep the hype machine at 100% 24/7 or they look bad. Palm needs to keep it at 50% and rise it up slowly.]]>Jun 4th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
According to your list, Apple has all four quarters of the year tied up for phone launches. Macworld, WWDC, Back-to-school and Christmas.

The Pre will be a success and the generation of the phone will be even better.

But when the first NVIDIA® Tegra™ based phone is released, watch out Apple and Palm.
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The Pre stood all alone in the lime light when it was presented a few months ago and that should have been the time to sell it, everybody was starstruck and everyone wanted it -- but it was nowhere in the shop. As much as you might hate it, all the eyes of the world will be on the iPhone next week and Palm will have lost a golden opportunity to make a huge splash because people will be comparing it to the unofficial benchmark of touch screen phones, the iPhone. It's the sad reality I'm afraid]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
That's pretty much how it's always presented by Apple's fans. You apparently cant launch a product based on some Apple press rally. It's never based on the merit of the device or service, it's just that Apple gonna say somthing.

Companies should just completely ignore their press stunts and launch/announce when they see fit.

If tech blogs and fanboys get pissy that it's getting in the way of an Apple show, then oh well!]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
Yeah, because everyday I tell people that Apple's products suck and that you should never ever buy anything from them, and instead should buy from company X, right?

Have fun finding the post where I do that.

That is the type of garbage you and you fanboy friends peddle in. Engadget has to contract out for all of the "low ranked" signs that have to waste on you clowns.]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
Self-reflection. Try it sometime.]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
Ok, since you are such an expert of me, give some examples of this.

But I believe that your posting history is a better study in that. Although I'm sure you will lie and say otherwise, or likely not respond at all.

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What the hell is wrong with you people?]]>Jun 4th 2009 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
The title of the article itself is a beacon to ifanboys to get in their iToldYaSo's. If they truly felt the Pre was no threat and beneath notice, they would not be trolling pre forums and desperately trying to influence opinion.

Pundits heavily favored the PS3 to be the dominant console of this generation because of the PS2's "unstoppable" market share and the prodigious horsepower of the device. They were wrong. I point this out not to say that the iPhone/Pre situation is identical, but to make the point that past performance is not a guarantee of future success, and the mighty do fall. What has kept me from buying an iPhone is AT&T service and the plan costs.

Personally, I think that the Pre strikes a nice balance between the entertainment capabilities of the iPhone and the business utilitarianism of a blackberry. It will have some kinks as all 1st gen products do. It's nice to see Palm back on the cutting edge. We'll see how things shake down. ]]>Jun 4th 2009 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/Jun 4th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sprint-and-palm-admit-that-they-dont-expect-wild-lines-for-pre/
"How the hell did Chapel get a highly ranked post in a non Apple article?? "

I know. And I posted in agreement with him.

I think I just threw-up in my mouth a little bit.]]>Jun 4th 2009 4:34PM