http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/ Engadget Comments for MID device sales far lower than estimates, only Intel surprised http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 5:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 7:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
There is a video of a cool MID that dual-boots with Android here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IAFX1ijYQc&feature=player_embedded]]>Jun 5th 2009 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/06/nvidias-tegra-takes-on-intel-in-the-midpmp-market.ars
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/06/adobe-nvidia-and-android-weaken-intels-case-for-atom-in-netbooks.ars
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Cortex-A8 based processors using the new ARMv7 instruction set (like TI OMAP3 which goes up to 1000mhz) are twice as fast per-clock as ARM11 and scale to higher clockspeeds. The custom "Cortex A8-like" Snapdragon core is even faster per clock, and is already offered at 1300 mhz combined with a 600mhz+ DSP. And T.I. and Qualcomm are already advertising their dual-core Cortex-A9 chips that scale to 1.0 and 1.5Ghz (ready next year).

Nvidia needs to step up the game with Tegra, and get the new ARM cores in there.]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 7:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
1) Poor capacity. Most MIDs only have 4 or 8 GB SSD.
2) High price. They cost more then 600 USD.
3) Weak graphics cards
4) High consumption, must have a big and heavy battery.
5) The fifth and most important point - there are almost no MIDs available worldwide. There is Viliv S5, Aigo MID and BenQ S6. That's all.

I would like to equip the Viliv S5 with an HDMI connector, SD card reader, slide out keyboard, phone capabilities and make it a little smaller. That's all I would ask for. That would be an ultimate device for me. Menlow should allow all this.

You can't compare MID to a smartphone. The processing power is much higher. Loading a difficult webpage will only take a few seconds to load compared to almost one minute on today's smartphones. Also the 5" 1024x600 screen is the smallest one that allows comfortable web browsing, e-mail reading, GPS navigation and video watching. It is at the same time the biggest screen that allows good portability.

The new Menlow platform should rapidly decrease consumption, decrease size and hopefully will be better priced. The competition of ARM based devices should keep the price low I hope.

I'm not a fan of Intel, in fact I hate them just as much as Microsoft, but I like the idea of MID. I would buy a similarly equipped ARM device if there was any. Unfortunately there isn't. ]]>Jun 5th 2009 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
This segment is pointless. They all should just merge their UMPC's, MID's, and Netbooks into one comprehensive product. I guess it would be like a touch screen phone, just the size of an Archos 7. That would be a great device.]]>Jun 5th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
- real mozilla-based browsing
- micro-sdhc expansion
- linux core (maemo)
- REAL sat gps
- 800x480 rez on a 4"screen
- great battery life (vids give you ~ 4hrs ... browsing and music, 8rs)
- open source community
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The only big advertising push I've seen for using one of these is that they can "run full versions of windows". Honestly, the main reason to use windows are A) You've got some software that's only offered on windows(games, custom apps, legacy apps, legacy formats) or B) You've got some hardware that only(or best) works with windows(printers, cameras, whatever).

If your trying to address B, the hardware your connecting to typically is stationary and you have to use a cord to connect to it. What's the purpose of making a computer as small as possible if its going to be sitting in one spot tethered to a cord? The size is too large to be pocketable, so I guess it'd be home or work bound anyway, but at that point, why bother for the same cost as a laptop?

If your trying to address A, a UMPC works pretty well except that the experience of using most of those softwares is pretty pathetic. Games are terrible due to the low class of graphics, unfit keyboards, and pathetic choices of processors/memory. Some of the same reasons could be given to "productivity" softwares(like Office) where the cramped keyboards and screens create usability problems.

So, if the windows experience would be better with a laptop or desktop, that means the UMPC's are competing against the whole range of "internet tablets". I've got a Nokia N800. Honestly, its my bathroom pc.

I use it while laying in the tub, I use it in the morning after a particularly large dinner. I occasionally take it with me into the bedroom when I just can't get to sleep. The only thing its good at is web browsing, listening to music, and running some crappy games. The software selection is lackluster at best. It was cheap($230) and its battery lasts a long-long time. I could easily replace it with an i-pod touch and would probably be happier.


Actually, I'd prefer they brought back smart displays. Take the home server concept a little further by letting me have a virtual pc that's only accessable through remote desktop, build me a 4-10 inch screen with 802.11/g/n and audio. Have it cost under 200. Build an attachment for my living room tv where I could flip something on my smart display to turn it into just a virtual keyboard/trackpad with my tv as my big display. That I'd use all day long at home. I want a portable display for a central pc(read closet) that I can switch between acting like a tablet pc and acting like a peripheral(keyboard/trackpad mode).]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
Smartphones killed it, and will continue to kill it with WVGA HD capable phones with full flash coming out this half of 2009.]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
Devices like this are *critical* for... sending the entire database of secrets of the American intelligence apparatus to your ex-bestfriend from college, so he can be babysat by a hot blond and an NSA assassin.

Thank you, I'll be here all week.]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
A dual boot WinXP & WinMo 6.5 smartphone that has a 800x480 5" screen min.
(Not unless the next WinMo7 can accept programs made for XP)

It ought to have a slide out keyboard, phone, GPS, 802.11, camera & dongle (or base) that has various video out, extra USB ports & multi sized SD reader.

It would be a big phone, but it would entirely replace need for standalone MID.]]>Jun 5th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
What cripples a MID is battery life, having to have a separate phone and ridiculous price.]]>Jun 5th 2009 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/To the Microsoft Origami: Fail.]]>Jun 5th 2009 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/Jun 5th 2009 8:29PM