http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/ Engadget Comments for Palm Pre: takeaways from Premier night http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/ President]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
here in Brazil, Vivo (the nation's largest carrier) was losing many customers because even though they have the best service and coverage, they didn't have GSM service. after they went GSM/UMTS/HSDPA, Vivo stopped losing that much customers, and still have their CDMA network (even though they no longer sell CDMA devices)]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
A lot of folks travel internationally. CDMA just does not cut it. Sorry. ]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
I am on GSM ATT, but ... most GSM phones are locked (you can crack it but still ...), there are CDMA phones with support of GMS calling outside US (how many of you travel outside US/Mexico?)


my point was that generic comment "Not GSM? No good" makes not much sense

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Maybe to you my comment makes no sense because you dont travel a lot out of the US. To those who do, it makes a lot more sense. Sure there is the Blackberry World Phone for Sprint and Verizon, but you again are limited in what you can have as your phone then, and in this cant, it still wouldnt even be a Palm Pre.

So the question I really ask you is, why would you buy a phone that can only work in one place when you buy a phone that can work almost the whole world? A phone that doesnt work after all is no good.
]]>Jun 6th 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/oh yeah - never.....

Face it - this argument is for less than 5% of the intended audience, and it's so f$%'in expensive to roam with ATT abroad that you'd just buy a local prepaid phone anyhow. It's a non-argument imo.]]>Jun 6th 2009 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
1. It is very rare. Sure people travel but most US folks stay in the US.
2. The cost is outrageous.
3. The 3G bands don't line up - you might get voice but you get nothing with data

The whole GSM vs CDMA is so overblown for a vast majority of US consumers.]]>Jun 6th 2009 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
Just like WMWifirouter. Invisible to the provider inherently.]]>Jun 5th 2009 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
At the end of the day palm will do fine because the Pre will gain momentum and sell well on other networks, however Sprint's still going to be in trouble as it thinks it can treat it's customer's like verizon (crippled phones anyone?) while not having the same raw numbers customer base.]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
11 people at the Manhattan flagship store?

That''s not even a pail of p...ah, nevermind...
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is that a good reason for that?]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
no best buys aren't opening up early but i know some radio shacks are (if you put your name on a reserve list some are opening an hour early for those people only)

i was going to go with best buy but they haven't been helpful when ive called or gone to the stores to ask about the Pre so they sure as hell aren't getting my business. ]]>Jun 5th 2009 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
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Sorry, that's typical carrier FUD. I tether all the time on my Touch Pro, and the experience is definitely NOT a poor one. I'll tell you (you being Sprint) what a bad experience is; paying twice for the same thing. I have internet on my smartphone, why do I need to pay extra to get it on my laptop? Why? Lame. Lame.

I'm hoping the app store comes out with a simple tethering app, just like WMWifirouter.

The choice is particularly difficult to swallow, no matter how good the Pre is for two reasons.
1. This will double my monthly bill, from the F&F 500 for $30/mo to $60 for an Everything Data 450
2. No longer able to tether, which is immensely useful, practical, and handy ]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
I am currently with ATT with iPhone so its already a weird decision for me right now considering I can just wait for Monday to see what Apple is coming out with and I am sure at some point I could get a PRE after that if I am not happy with the new iPhone.

I am mostly doing this because I am apparently bored and have extra money...but its a contract...MEH]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Only people who spend their Friday nights reading tech blogs (Instead of trying to get laid) care about this kind of stuff.

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man geeks suck ;)]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 6th 2009 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
There may be a hack later, but no way was it going to work out of the box.]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
(oops, replied on the wrong post...the first time)]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
Translation: We can get more out of the suckers by making them have a whole separate data plan. But we're calling it "user experience" just for giggles...]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/
WiMAX and LTE may change all that - but we're talking 2012 before it even gets rolled out beyond a handful of MSAs.

As for the battery - AT LEAST YOU CAN BUY A BACKUP!]]>Jun 5th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 5th 2009 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 6th 2009 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 6th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 6th 2009 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 6th 2009 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/palm-pre-takeaways-from-premier-night/Jun 6th 2009 8:17AM