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This chip can easily display 720p video on a WVGA screen...]]>Jun 16th 2009 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
Really? If this was coming to an iPod it would be hailed as the greatest thing since sliced bread, poised to take over the DS and PSP, but somehow it's a bad thing for Microsoft?]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/"This game looked kind of crappy and really awkward to play"

You mean like 90% of iPhone games?]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
But a big part of the Tegra appeal is playing HD video on the mobile screen on WVGA resolution with no skipped frames. Wouldn't you want to play your DVDrips and TVrips on the go, on WVGA resolutions?]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/any graphics chips have been available forever, it's Microsoft's fault for not cashing in on it with WinMo, they never made a standard API like DirectX, and many manufacturers didn't pick up on
I actually remember seeing a 3D puzzle game in the App Store that was originally released on the Dell Axim 5 years ago running at twice the resolution of the iPhone to show of intel's then new 3D GPU]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
Yeah, they remembered a dig at microsoft, and ignored what could be the most important line in the piece from PC perspective.

"Tegra will be the first chip that supports Adobe Flash acceleration"

If the browser works, this could be the first true mobile net device.
]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
Which makes the HVGA resolution a shame as well, as you won't be able to watch HD Youtube at full quality on your Zune "HD", even though the Tegra chip can play it smoothly with no skipped frames.

Hence the "what a waste" comment.]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
No offence man, but when you're making this particular argument, please, don't agree with me.

The screen is 3.3 inches, WVGA is a waste. To see the difference, you'd have to stick the thing in your eye.

Also, WVGA won't play YouTube HD vids at full resolution either.

]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
WVGA would show youtube HD at twice the quality and details of HVGA. What's your point? Disagreeing for the hell of it?

Tegra IS a waste on a HVGA screen when almost all high-end "phones" are WVGA, not to mention MIDs.]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/The biggest problem in the mobile sector has been licensing. Drivers are incredibly proprietary and each new generation from each new manufacturer has it's own API. No one, until recently, has been able to make a unifying API. OpenGl ES is not Apple's product, so I'd stfu before you start to give credit to them because thats a huge insult to real the movers and shakers that are responsible for this technology: ARM, ImgTec, Khronos, TI, Intel, Samsung, etc.

Tarex, the only thing worse then a fan boy is an inherent pessimist. Nvidia while a big player in the GPU market, is relatively new the mobile GPU market. They have to break into the sector first before there is mass adoption. The ZuneHD will be a nice device and there is nothing wrong if they use the Tegra chipset. What's even better for Nvidia is that there is a huge marketing name now involved which means that a lot of doors will open up if in fact the ZuneHD is powered by the Tegra. This is business, theres a lot more at stake then your opinion, get used to it.]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
An AMOLED helps to reduce the gaps between each pixel, making the display much more "fluid", making even a low resolution device like this look much fuller than a high resolution device like the Touch HD.

The funny thing about the TouchHD is that the screen resolution actually hurts the device. Having WVGA pixels to render takes a deep hit on the processor. Thats why the Android devices perform much better than WinMo devices on similar hardware. VGA/WVGA is too much for the pathetic Qualcomm processor to handle, thus you see such poor performance out of these devices. I would rather have lower resolution and stunningly smooth usage, as seen by Gizmodo's video of the ZuneHD in action than have more pixels than the device can handle.

And the Touch HD cant even dream of playing anything back in HD. It barely handles video at its own resolution. ]]>Jun 17th 2009 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 12:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
You should take something for that long cough.]]>Jun 17th 2009 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 7:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
you should get your cough checked out... hopefully it ain't swineflu.]]>Jun 17th 2009 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
cool gadget, bro!]]>Jun 16th 2009 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
But the difference is the 3D graphics.... many of them.]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/This thing is great but what about playing it on a mobile phone, not a prototype device?
Oh, wait, we are STILL waiting for a phone with a tegra, yeah, I totally forgot that after waiting since the second half of 2008 when they were promised.
Hardware makers! We will stop buying your OVERPRICEDCRAP if you don't make a $99 Tegra phone!
Now its only a question of time before "we" becomes a critical mass to make device makers notice.]]>Jun 17th 2009 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
they're reall fun and free, but i got tired of playing soon. This zombie killing concept seems even more fun]]>Jun 17th 2009 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
Mr. Miller, you're a bit misinformed. Upcoming WinMo prototypes have been spotted running the Qualcomm snapdragon platform, which is quite impressive in itself.

http://www.qctconnect.com/products/snapdragon.html

Besides, Microsoft is only in charge of the Zune hardware; not of the WinMo phones. ]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/93701/rumoured-windows-mobile-7-chassis-1-specifications-leaked.html) so it makes sense to include it in the Zune HD as well.]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
Point is, Zune's still second fiddle to the WinMo behemoth in Redmond, and it would've behooved Microsoft and its customers to push spec requirements for Tegra or Snapdragon level hardware in 6.5 with a far jazzier UI. The fact that a Tegra Zune could beat Tegra WinMo devices to market feels... well, mean, since it's the WinMo fans who've been waiting patiently for Tegra since day one.]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 17th 2009 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
By the time the ZuneHD comes out, we'll have at least one Snapdragon based device out in the market (The Toshiba TG01 and maybe the SE Xperia X2). If the latest iteration of TouchFLO, TouchWIZ ans Stripes (Toshiba UI) is any indication, manufacturers would bury the WinMo UI as deep as possible and customize almost the entire phone with proprietary UIs (And not just the home screen and a few apps). And each of these processors are upto the task without breaking a sweat.]]>Jun 17th 2009 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
On the other hand, Qualcomm's current-gen Snapdragon uses a far better processor with a custom 1.0Ghz ARMv7 core architecture similar to the Cortex-A8, but heavily modified for better performance. It should easily outgun the slower dual-core ARM11.

-- "are showing off some of CPU's impressive potential with an augmented reality game ARhrrrr."

Apparently Engadget writers don't get it either. The Tegra's CPU is downright unimpressive.]]>Jun 17th 2009 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
There are Tegra powered devices on their 2009 roadmap., so I am not too worried right now.]]>Jun 17th 2009 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
I totally disagree. There's no way with the short turnaround that they could have forced such specs on devices already in the design pipeline. A lot of manufacturers would have been pissed off, and left holding parts beyond their own privates.

Similarly, if individual manufacturers wanted to, they COULD use modern procs in some models (the Toshiba being the only real world example at the moment). It's very likely that they've been on hold until the 6.5 release in May, and see what they're facing in the future.

http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=815

What also seems obvious is that when WM7 is released, it'll be a unified code base along with the Zune, much in the same way the iPod Touch and iPhone are basically the same minus the phone.

The difference is that Microsoft will likely continue to market the Zune itself, and will likely NOT release a Zune Phone under their own brand. They'll leave that up to the HTCs and Samsungs of the world, hence the high minimum specs.

]]>Jun 17th 2009 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/]]>Jun 17th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/
All the 6 y.o. and 78 y.o. will be so angry since there ds wont be #1.



Hmmmm, things that could do better in the world, too bad microsoft doesnt care.]]>Jun 16th 2009 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/16/tegra-might-power-zune-hd-definitely-does-augmented-zombie-real/Jun 16th 2009 11:33PM