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Android did it... And don't tell me specs held the iPhone 3G back from video recording because that's total BS.]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
At least that's what I'm telling myself so that I don't freak out on the sheep that have to have the 3G S just because it's newer. The whole lack of any real innovating frustrates me.]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
But... the illusion that IT people suffer from is that they are part of some high speed moving wave of amazing.

The truth is that IT is more like molasses, a slow moving glue designed to leach wallets with the occasional jump forward every 10 years or so.

Apple for some strange reason is perceived as both the fastest moving and the biggest let down. It's neither, Apple comes out with an innovation every year or so and mostly the innovations are not IT related so much as design manufacturing, sales or integration related. The iPhone has some nifty bits, but its main features sit in design, sales and integration, not the invention of a new technology.

Palm? Hardly innovative, over 10 years ago they made a PDA OS, then Palm bought Handspring who had licensed the OS to make a phone, nothing changed for years except maybe giving up on themselves and then with a design guy from Apple they come out with the Pre, which is from all accounts is another whatever piece of plastic from China with client side web apps (now there is a new idea!). I'm not down on Palm, its just business as usual.

Intel, what they added another core, that was being first done in the late 90's. Blu Ray? the key inventions are circa 1994. Co-processors, talk about the magic roundabout, here it comes again...

The rest of it is simply economies of scale, making things cheaper and smaller over time. Amazing IT? And interestingly the real leaps in IT are usually despised by the IT crowd, because it means change, which means work and IT people prefer to sit on their ass, chat to mates and impress the lesser people by demonstrating that they have done the same thing so many times its basically muscle memory, so it seems quick.

This iPhone 3GS has got F all to do with the Pre and a lot more to do with 2 year contracts coming up. Surprise, surprise a sales strategy, not an IT one. The $99 8Gig, Geez that was obvious the moment the first model was released, even the 2 year timing of it, that's manufacturing and sales. They would have been sitting around 6 months before Jobs walked on stage and set the $99 timing for the 8gig back then.

We wish these companies were into IT, but they are into business. All the fanboys can cry into their hankies, cause you know what, we don't even rate on the sales chart. You want to be important to the companies you buy your crap off, move to another industry.]]>Jun 19th 2009 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 3:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
That's what the Nintendo DS was supposed to be too against the PSP, and look where those two systems are.]]>Jun 19th 2009 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/

The way our cellular market works, unless you are rich (or dumb. Hundreds of dollars to break contract), there are more deciding factors for buying a new phone than simply wanting one. ]]>Jun 19th 2009 4:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Oh and this release has very little to do with the Palm Pre. Apple's release schedule is quite rigid plus OS 3 got announced and released to developers about 4 months ago. Sure going from 3G to 3GS is nothing like going from Treo to Pre but Palm has only themselves to blame. Plus I am quite sure that the Palm hype will very soon hit the fan. We are no longer in the 90s and a good device alone does not sell very well. ]]>Jun 19th 2009 6:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Granted, I do think it's b.s. that Apple didn't allow video recording (sans the 30 fps and autofocus quality) for the 3G through the 3.0 software, but I think they did this to prevent poor quality video on teh 3G being mistaken for the 3GS's capabilities?

Regradless, I'm excited about all of the new stuff under the hood of my 3GS and can't wait for an even better phone next summer!]]>Jun 19th 2009 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Is this a serious comment? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You know the DS came out 20 days BEFORE the PSP, right? And that's just the Japanese timeline, the DS released in the US several months before the PSP.

Please, troll harder. Make me work.]]>Jun 19th 2009 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Amen. The comments section on Engadget has become a sorry joke.]]>Jun 19th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Do you feel less butt-hurt when it's phrased as Apple playing catch-up with Palm?]]>Jun 19th 2009 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Let's take a Dell laptop from 2 years ago, running Windows XP. Now, let's get a brand new Dell laptop and (pay extra to Micro$oft) to put Windows XP on it. The old dell is a 1Ghz proscessor with a gig of RAM, 120 GB hard drive and integrated graphics and a 2 hour battery. The new Dell is a 2.11Ghz, 2GB Ram, 250 GB hard drive and discreet graphics, with a 3.5 hour battery.

Which would you want? Would you upgrade to a machine that is twice as fast, with twice the RAM, twice the hard drive, faster graphics, and more battery life? I would.

That's the difference in the 3G and the 3GS. People too stupid to understand that internal changes are more important than changes in the visible UI or the industrial design of the shell are the ones saying this isn't a real upgrade. They'll be the same people saying Snow Leopard isn't a "real upgrade" because it looks the same on the surface, even though it's completely rebuilt on 64 bit architecture.

I'll gladly pay for speed. video, magnetometer, and voice control are nice, but it's about speed, for me.]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
Yeah, but it'll only be $29 to upgrade, and you don't have to break a contract to do it. The whole 64-bit statement is a bit misleading anyway. Apples and oranges...]]>Jun 19th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Is the audio quality better or the same?

this is the main question for me as I would probably get this as a good "loseless format" player, and a phont in it can be handy...
but the sound in previous generation was not on par with iPod touch so I am currious...
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http://www.target.com/Dane-Elec-1GB-Brick-Drive-Yellow/dp/B000TYC992/qid=1245387315/ref=br_1_6/188-1590523-2356929?ie=UTF8&node=700574011&frombrowse=1&index=tgt-mf-mv&rank=price&rh=&page=1]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
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you are very sad.]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 12:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
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*slap*

"I guess not."

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This has to be the funniest/most pathetic thing I've heard in weeks. There are about a million insults I could come up with for this moment right now, but I couldn't possibly pick one.

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the rest of yall fell for it, again]]>Jun 19th 2009 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
This is a pretty lame release in general. Imagine if a car company simply added a few horsepower and a compass and that was that?]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
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I just don't get what all the bitching is about, Nokia has been doing this spec bump thing for years, there is nothing wrong with releasing a more powerful piece of hardware. Were people expecting an adamantium orb shaped iPhone?]]>Jun 19th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
And yes, I did replace my rear housing. It's red, and selling for $800.]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/
I want like, a red iPod touch, that I don't need to send to a company that's prices are outrageous just to paint it.

Arg.



Although my friend is walking around with a nice blue iPhone 3G. :(]]>Jun 19th 2009 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/iphone-3g-s-gets-the-quick-and-dirty-tear-apart-treatment-alrea/Jun 19th 2009 12:38AM