Now that we know the iPhone 3G S and the Palm Pre
share extremely similar 65nm ARM Cortex A8-based internals, it's time to break out the stopwatches and see how these blood brothers stack up.
Anandtech has the first head-to-head tests we've seen, and it seems like the 3G S has the slight edge, loading a series of web pages
11 percent faster and a whopping 54 percent faster than the iPhone 3G.
Not too shabby, but not exactly a thorough drubbing either -- especially when you consider webOS is still 1.0 and there's likely some optimizations to come. Full results at the read link.
Update: Anandtech had some uncharacteristically bad math going on -- the 3G S is actually 21 percent faster than the Pre, which is quite notable considering the similar hardware and WebKit-based browsers.
posted June 20th 2009 11:29PM
FIRST!!!
I'm not really surprised. What really surprised me was how the iPhone 3GS is actually capable of 720p video...
Hey, what a relevant comment
Thought I'd mention something that Engadget hasn't seemed to mention yet. Unless if they did and I missed it somewhere.
WOW...THE PALM PRE !
Just add that to the rest of the Palm phones which fail to stand up to the dominance that is iPhone.
These comparison tests are IRRELEVANT.
My desktop outperforms the iPhone too...but the world's masses aren't buying my desktop.
@quantumphysics - wow, where to begin. well, how about outlining the most important point of the article - the Pre just came out, first version, 1.0 webOS (ok 1.0.3) and it's already just a shade under the performance of apple's LATEST effort, something they have been working on upgrading hardware and software-wise for years.
So basically you're laughing at the rookie fighter for showing up in his first match and coming within a hair of beating the world champ.
Paul.... What is the point of your existence? Let's say you wake up one morning and you've won, EVERYONE loves apple and nothing else. You would literally have ZERO reason to exist. So you keep arguing apple, apple, apple, but if people started listening, you wouldn't be so special anymore. So ask yourself this before posting anymore please, "Do I REALLY want to convince people to be more like me?" because if they were, you wouldn't be the most obnoxious douche on the internet anymore and you wouldn't have any identity at all.
@Paul a. Chapel
I personally think the Palm Pre is a very worthy iPhone competitor. Not an iPhone killer. It's going toe-to-toe against the iPhone and holding it's ground. I think that's pretty remarkable in its' own right. However, it won't beat Apple anytime soon simply because it's not an Apple product. Almost everyone just buys shit they don't have to think about. "Well, everyone else I know owns an iPhone, so I might as well just get it". The same thing could be said about the music industry, There's very good music out there if you know where to look. Most people, however, cannot be bothered to, are to lazy to, or just don't care. So, people like Lil Wayne or the Jonas Brothers exist.
You guys do realize that I said that I LIKE the Pre, right?
@ konshuss,
While you are correct that it’s version 1.0(.3) it’s also quite relevant in that in the end, the overall performance and user experience count for pretty much everything. Since, as the blog states, they have the same Cortex A8 we should expect a more similar result, but since OS X is very resource heavy in nature for a mobile OS and WebOS was expected to be very light due to its webcode-based apps many were expecting the Pre to be faster in boot ups and app launches, something it couldn’t even best the previous two iPhones at if you look at the other testing Anand did.
While we can use the defense that it’s a new OS and even that the CPU clock speed is presumed to be under-clocked to 500Mhz while the iPhone 3GS is at 600MHz, which certainly accounts for differences, none of that matters to the end user. Though frankly optimizations of code and drivers will only do so much. Unless they can better the battery management to allow the device to be clocked higher while keeping the battery at or better than it is performance won’t change too much.
While I hope Palm succeeds my problem with them is their release of the device 3 days prior to the well anticipated iPhone 3GS announcement. They would have bettered themselves for a release a few months after the iPhone, with more optimizations done to the OS and HW and with a public SDK in place from the get go.
I admire their attempt to go after the areas that Apple didn’t tackle, but they have made a huge mistake at this point. I doubt the Pre will be anymore successful than Sprint’s previous huge smartphone marketing of the Samsung Instinct.
Just for clarification purpose, I'm on Sprint currently and I am planning on changing to the Pre in January when my contract is up. Isn't anyone else astonished at 720p on a phone? Obviously that would have to be sent out through like a HDMI out port that the iPhone seems to be lacking.
Now I just can't wait for webOS 1.1 software to see what it brings. At the rate updates are coming out for the Pre I wouldn't be surprised to see 2.0 come out in January/February or somewhere around there. There are only so many numbers in the world.
@mellioncollie,
Have you ever considered the iPhone is ACTUALLY better than the Pre? Seriously, is that out the realm of possibility that it has more memory(32 GB vs 8 GB)? Is it possible the iPhone is better in almost every category including better battery, video recording, video editing, the vast amount of apps available, bigger screen, better built, voice control, better media player and countless of other features?
Or are you too blind to see the advantage?
@mellioncollie,
Oh yeah, and its faster too.
@ hey,
The A8 can do 720p and the PowerVR SGX’s can output it as well, but neither phone as I know will load or play those files. Being capable in HW doesn’t mean that the feature is included. There are usually legitimate reasons for this.
@ Sy,
While I much prefer my iPhone and I’m sure that most people would prefer it, too, the things you mention aren’t addressing the areas in which the Pre does exceed. Some what a physical keyboard, slightly smaller height, background apps, Sprint network. All those things one could say are better than the iPhone and if those benefits outweigh the cons then the Pre is the best choice.
For the same price (ignoring the silly rebate they are doing) the 8GB Pre is the same price as the 16GB iPhone 3GS, but that may not be a big deal to those that find 8GB more than enough for a phone. It’s not for me which is why I’m on my 3rd generation of iPhones going from 8GB to 16GB to 32GB each year, but to many it might be. I’m just glad we have the choices.
@ hey,
The A8 can do 720p and the PowerVR SGX’s can output it as well, but neither phone as I know will load or play those files. Being capable in HW doesn’t mean that the feature is included. There are usually legitimate reasons for this.
@ Sy,
While I much prefer my iPhone and I’m sure that most people would prefer it, too, the things you mention aren’t addressing the areas in which the Pre does exceed. Some what a physical keyboard, slightly smaller height, background apps, Sprint network. All those things one could say are better than the iPhone and if those benefits outweigh the cons then the Pre is the best choice.
For the same price (ignoring the silly rebate they are doing) the 8GB Pre is the same price as the 16GB iPhone 3GS, but that may not be a big deal to those that find 8GB more than enough for a phone. It’s not for me which is why I’m on my 3rd generation of iPhones going from 8GB to 16GB to 32GB each year, but to many it might be. I’m just glad we have the choices.
THANK YOU ROBERT
Your logic is undeniable.
Wow, you get one account banned but then you create a new one?? AND you actually keep this list somewhere and copy/paste it in EVERY pre article..
Does it suck to still be a virgin?
just for curiosity's sake, I would certainly like to see they put it against Win-Mo devices. I would guess Win-Mo would win the contest...... Nay, not gonna happen. Right, fanbois?
@Robert
Are you the world's biggest douche? I'm sick of seeing that list, so stop posting it. What's this 'console quality' games bullcrap? A Sega Saturn could spank the iPhone, let alone a Wii. Crappy spin-off titles with big names do not make them 'console quality'. You should be happy about the Pre-your precious 3G S probably would have been less without decent competition.
@Robert
I know you are troll so I'll just pick one of your stupid points and demolish it:
"No true apps - only webapps (so weak)"
What don't you understand about Native Widgets, Native API's = Native App. This is nothing like what iPhone 1 had at launch before they had a real native SDK. The iPhone let you sking your websites to look like native apps, but they still ran in the sandbox of the browser with no native API's at all. If you think that has any relation to how webos apps work, you are an imbecile. Do some basic research.
WebOS uses Javascript its development language (much like other popular *native* apps Firefox and Thunderbird do), OS X uses Objective-C, Android uses Java... guess what, NONE OF THOSE ARE WHAT THE CPU ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS. Thats called machine code, but seeing as you are clueless fuckwit I wouldn't expect you to know that. WebOS and Android both use interpreters to run their NATIVE APPS, OS X uses compiled Objective-C. Get over it.
This article is funny. 40 seconds for the G1 to get to digg? Well, I have mine right here, and it loads it in 5 seconds. It wouldn't even take 40 seconds on 1 bar of EDGE (2G)...
....SO this article is total bs, and why even post the Pre? Its a POS, everyone knows this... its a big failure.
G1 > IPHONE > PRE > BLACKBERRY ... hands down, I've used them all.
G1 is especially better, AND its cheaper monthly, for the unit itself, and the apps are free and 99% exactly the same as the iphones. Iphone is badass, don't get me wrong, but the G1 owns it hands down.
This article is paid for / biased... 110% fact, there's no way the G1 is that horrible, they honestly had to have paid someone to make this article.
The iphone is almost comparable to the G1, and I would have got it if it wasn't so overpriced/ripoff and if google wasn't so awesome. Why do you think Microsoft is trying to copy google so bad? (see: bing.com / microsoft free 411 / the list goes on)...
Google is going to surpass the iphone in 2010, android is taking over suckas... watch and see. Why do you think its mentioned daily and being used on everything new coming out? Even laptops...
@Robert Lobb
Palm Pre Benefits over IPhone 3GS
-Have both an exchange and a normal email address synced up at the same time.
-Cheapest plans include unlimited text and picture messaging. You will be charged for text messages (.20c per) on the iPhone's cheapest plan.
-Includes a turn by turn direction app right out of the box.
-Smaller overall footprint - iphone feels much larger in comparison. I own both, so i can compare both side by side.
-Removable Battery - included battery is the exact same size as the iphones - the advantage is you can bring a spare that costs less than most iPhone third party attachments, which add bulk and size, not to mention are of limited use when the internal battery itself does not hold a charge (unless you want to keep it in there permanently).
-Multitasking (this is useful for more than just 'playing two games at once' - you can run third party apps such as evernote and pandora in tandem with mail and the browser, for instance. Push notifications will never offer this functionality.
-Built-in IM client allows you to seamless switch between text messages and IMs
-OTA backups allow you to restore data on your phone easily.
-Gesture Area leverages the touch screen technology even more
- Physical keyboard - good for not only typing, but persistent commands such as keyboard shortcuts.
- Built in To-Dos Sync over Exchange
- Touchstone charger (Cool wireless Charging)
- Less obtrusive notifications
- Syncing of Google, Facebook, and Exchange Calendars seamlessly.
- OTA software updates
- MMS on AT&T is not currently available
- Calendar day view much more useful
- Classic emulator opens up a lot of extra functionality, especially for those used to old Palm devices.
- Third party apps high quality - Pandora allows you to pause and skip tracks with the wired remote and run in the background as a notification, Fandango allows your ordered tickets to automatically add the event to your calendar, which syncs to the cloud. This is the standard on WebOS because the entire device is very "connected" with the cloud.
To reply to your criticisms:
8 GB memory limit
No true apps - only webapps (so weak) - Totally false, The Mojo SDK is being readied by palm
No voice and data at the same time (because of Sprint CDMA network) -Carrier Problem
No voice dialing - not useful to all
No video recording - expect it soon
No voice memos - Not useful to all
No movie rentals (over the air or otherwise) - Do not mix App functions with phone functions
No visual Voicemail - Not useful to all
No TV show purchases-Do not mix App functions with phone functions
No audiobook purchasing - do not mix App functions with phone functions
No true app store (so few apps, it's literally one App Page) - Check the Apple crapstore history
No console-quality games (like Resident Evil, Metal Gear, 1000's of others for iPhone) - on the way
No Peer to Peer games (the ability to play Texas Holdem with some stranger on the subway) - on the way
No VoiceOver (the iPhone can read any screen to you, just like a Mac)
No native in-car integration (iPhone has this with dozens of cars)
No podcasts - It runs fine on the pre
Pre screen is too small - Same resolution and therefore better quality
Crippled copy/paste (for example - you can't cut or copy a webpage or any part of it) - Totally false
No universal search (crippled - no e-mail search) - Synergy is the answer
Tiny keyboard (iPhone landscape and portrait keyboards are bigger than Pre's real keyboard) - No touchscreen keyboard can match a physical keyboard
No 7.2 Mbps network speed - Wait for the GSM Pre
No AT&T free hotspots (thousands of them) - Wait for the GSM Pre
No free Starbucks hotspots (tens of thousands) - Wait for the GSM Pre
No Find My Phone feature - Expect that soon
Can't function as a Remote for the household stereo (Great for parties, especially with the iTunes DJ feature where people can
request songs) - Not useful to many
Weak battery life - It is better than the iPhone
More expensive than iPhone - Costs lesser when total contract is considered
Very scratchable screen - Totally False
No oleophobic protective screen - Not useful for many
No native media player (Apple can break iTunes compatibility at any time and I don't want to take that chance)
No Compass - Useless to many
No multiple and customizable home screens like iPhone (Pre only has one home screen) - Pre has better homescreen animation and is more intuitive than black Iphone homescreen
No Parental Controls - Not useful
No Video Editing - What is the computer for
No onboard Ringtone Creation - Not useful
No 5 person conference calls - Carrier Problem
No Webclips - Totally False
Don't say false things about pre when you don't even own it. You are just a pawn of apple. It is no use to buy the new iPhone even for show off as it has a two year old design.
Many features you mentioned are not even present in the current iphones and are therefore totally useless.
Robert's post is terrific.
I wonder what he was saying after the first gen iPhone came out? Was he singing the praises of WinMo devices when they had the following features that WERE NOT present on the iPhone:
Mulitasking
Physical keyboards
LED flash
Memory that exceeded 16GB
Voice and data at the same time
Voice dialing
Video recording
Voice memos
Voice-Activated Google Search, No voice-activated Contact Search
GPS
Tethering
Business
Microsoft ActiveSync Security Compatibility (ActiveSync PIN, SSL server access)
Entertainment
Over-the-air music purchases, play podcasts
20,000+ apps available before the iPhone was ever released
Important features
Copy/paste
7.2 Mbps network speed
Battery, Price, and Screen
Other Features
Voice Commands
Real Bluetooth (with A2DP)
FACT: The iPhone was light years behind other WinMo smartphones. Can anyone honestly say the iPhone had more features? I would honestly like someone to list 50+ features the iPhone had that high end WinMo devices didn't have. But no one will. Everyone will just curse me and downrank me.
I guarantee it.
WOW I thought you were ALL dorky virgins bitchin about a PHONE. But after reading most of the post, Robert topped all of you based on the detailed post he made, lol I wish I can slap you for being such a dweeb. I'm a BB fan, maybe b/c I have never had a WinMo or IPhone, but I would invest in a IPhone 3GS no questions asked since Windows in general is unstable. If my Vista laptop cant last a day without crashing what better chances does WinMo have?
I wonder why there are so many people with no brains in this world. They do not know how to even use a computer well. They keep telling vista is crap but i say the user is a stupid. My vista crashes in months if ever.
I find it funny that one month ago apple fanboys used to say that the iPhone 3g has the fastest browser.
It shows that 30% of US with old iPhone take more than 30 seconds to open digg. ROFL
@bjsguess
You could not be more correct and i know that the world is not that bad to downrank you cause they know that you are totally correct.(Except Apple Fanboys)
People say bad things about WinMo but they are total losers. Windows mobile is more of a powerhouse OS and not a fun to play with OS. It is suited for professionals and businessmen. I myself like WinMo a lot.
@ johnsushant1 - WinMo is fun to play with for me! I can spend hours a day just messing around with all kinds of settings and registry entries - nearly everything is customisable... granted, they didn't really want you to, but if you know where to look and what you're doing, there's hardly anything you can't change.
"So basically you're laughing at the rookie fighter for showing up in his first match and coming within a hair of beating the world champ."
Palm has been in this market for much much longer than Apple... Just because it's their first phone with this new OS doesn't mean they are the "rookie fighter"...
The irony here is that you guys hated on the iPhone for almost three years for not having many of the features in Robert's list, but now that the Pre is out and is a competitor to that company that you hate so much, Apple, all those features are suddenly "not that important."
Hmmm.
@Robert:
So what you're saying is, the iPhone simply fulfills the American stereotype of "bigger, faster, better, stronger" - that doesn't mean that the iPhone is *preferable* to the Pre.
As a student, why should I care about Exchange support? As an iPhone user, I've never, not once, made a conference call - why should I care that my Pre can't? Why should I care about hundreds of fart apps? 8GB of storage can more than hold enough music for one day - why should I *need* any more? As someone with a dedicated GPS unit, why should I need another GPS app w/compass? The iPhone is a jack of all trades, master of none.
What the Pre does that the iPhone doesn't get, is the fact that it's a *smartphone* - not some app-jumbling computer that's more a graphically-enhanced DOS than a mobile OS X (in comparison to Palm's comparative Windows 3.1 - a command line interface that runs 1 app at a time versus an environment that can run multiple applications and easily switched between them, but still both relatively infant operating systems compared to what will come in the following years)
The iPhone has a set of contacts, but I can't do anything to that list other than phone, email, etc. The point about the Pre is that with Synergy, I can 1) pull contacts from anywhere that someone cares to support (right now just Facebook and Google contacts) and 2) Do anything with them too. I can write an app that keeps track of who's RSVP'd for my event because the app has access to my set of contacts. The iPhone doesn't - it has a set number of apps that it can launch from within the Contacts app (Mail, Maps, etc.) and the list of Contacts is locked down outside of these specific Apple apps.
And as you well know, the Pre has real multitasking. You tell me which one you'd rather have: multitasking, or that compass.
Don't mention the App store either - Apple didn't have an App store right at release, neither did they have 50,000 apps at the App store's release. Both take time. Take some Ritalin and wait for it.
I personally? I own an iPhone 1st gen. I'm not getting a Pre, because I'm on a family line and Sprint represents a bigger bill for me. But I'm not getting an iPhone 3G or 3GS either - they're just evolutionary. I can still run all of those stupid apps and still access all of the same sites and still do 99% of what I could do on either the 3G or the 3GS. But most importantly, because I don't want my line stuck on a 2-year contract when I go to study abroad next year. That's not Apple's fault, nor Palm's fault, but the carriers fault for locking their phones down. So what I'm ACTUALLY going to buy next is a $150 quadband, unlocked Nokia 3120 classic dumbphone, because I don't want to pay for data abroad. I'm going to take that dumbphone, that's actually half-decent at, whatdoyouknow, MAKING CALLS, and I'm going to pair it with a 160 GB iPod that I bought off of eBay - because 160GB owns the shit out of the puny 32 GB in your new iPhone 3GS, and because it was incredibly stupid for Apple to stop offering the 160GB iPod in favor of one with 120 GB. Then, maybe I'll go fetch my 6 year old Palm Pilot out of the closet, with the Garnet OS that, you know, actually managed my contacts well. And managed my calendar and to-do list well. And then I'm going to take all of these ancient devices that actually do what I need them to do, throw them in the front of my Camelbak (which I own so I don't have to pay $1.50 for 16 oz. of water when I'm out) and actually set out on the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
TL:DR: The race doesn't always go to the swiftest, nor the fastest, nor to the most powerful - but to those who keep on running, and to those who make an effort to push the bar forward. Also, Robert Frost pwns u.
@Jamesology
If your laptop is crashing every day you need to get your laptop fixed. I hope someone didn't tell you it was "just the way Vista is" as a way to get out of work.
So much anger in this post, lol.
Seriously guys, just buy whichever phone you like the most and stop with the hate-fest. Welcome to the world of free market capitalism. Anyone would think the issue of "Which phone is the best" was actually important to you people. Find a real cause for concern.
Everyone thinks Iranians are rioting about the election results. Not true. President Ahmadinejad let slip that he thought the Pre was better than the iPhone.
This comparison is bogus...unless you can account for web site latency and ping response, I would say the 3GS and Palm Pre are a dead heat...nice try
Internet nerds and their damned spec comparisons. No one gives a damn. They really really don't care.
What people want is a better experience.
There are a bajillion music players out there that provide better specs than the iPod. More storage space, FM tuners, smaller physical footprint, better for the environment, whatever you want, it doesn't matter, the iPod provides the best experience. From the iTunes music store to iTunes to the iPod interface. It works and it works well.
Yeah sure your favorite music store has better compression and a better DRM system, no one but you gives a damn. Sure your favorite music player uses less ram and allows you to skin it to look like a stripping girl, no one but you gives a damn.
The G1 and the Pre are great phones and it is a wonderful thing that companies out there are kicking ass and innovating, because it's a better thing for us all. It doesn't change the fact that Apple knows what consumers want, and can deliver a hell of an experience.
You guys can compare all the specs and features one phone has over another, just don't delude yourself into thinking that your device of choice is actually going to sell more units because it has better specs.
Definitely don't delude yourself into thinking that you are a better person because you use a certain product made by a certain brand, that's just pathetic.
Bless you Dean, your post was nearly poetic!
That was pretty darn poetic, Dean, and that's exactly what I've been trying to tell people for the past few weeks. Bravo. The Pre is a nice phone and all, but they're just a bit too late. It'll do well with the Apple Haters and Zune fanboys who are waiting for Microsoft's iPhone killer (Yeah, it's coming and you can bet it'll have a cool version of Solitaire and Startac compatibility), but with non-geek consumers, not so much.
You know people, just because I say I'm shocked about something does not mean that I am a fanboy of that particular object. I am currently a Sprint customer and planning to get a Pre sometime soon if I can. If not I'll just get a Blackberry Tour and go worldwide with it.
If I may point out to you people, the Classic app does let you access the PalmOS HUGE, GARGANTUAN catalog of apps too. You just have to spend a bit more money to be able to get it.
@darkmax,
Yeah, I would have liked that as well...., actually they should have thrown in the Omnia HD as wel since it's a Symbian Touch phone with the same CPU and the same amount of ram as the 3G-s.
They say the pre is faster than the iphone 3g with the new update in some categories. I think they are both great phones actually.
http://www.precentral.net/palm-pre-vs-iphone-3g-s-iphone-browser-head-head
[cross-posted at The iPhone Blog, where you'll find a raft of iPhone 3G S coverage!
Update: As noted in the comments and in a raft of emails, you can open links in a new card on the Pre with Opt + Space + Tap. It works, but Palm, really, Opt + Tap isn't really doing anything here. Just saying. Thanks everybody!
This is why we can't have nice things.
On a side note, why isn't engadget reporting the widespread 3GS activation issues and crashes? As to the so-called 3GS vs Pre test, where is the video?? CNET did a test (on video), it clearly showed the Pre is faster. Also, the 3GS is supposedly trying to access 7.2 speeds, whereas the Pre is running Rev-A, which has a max of 3.1Mbps. The equivalent to 7.2 will be Sprints Rev-B which has a max of 9.3Mbps. Sprint has yet to roll out Rev-B.
"No console-quality games (like Resident Evil, Metal Gear, 1000's of others for iPhone) - on the way"
Yeah, console-quality games. Your refering to the Consoles that existed in the early 90s like the Snes, Genesis and maybe N64/Ps1? Sure, I guess you could say there's console-quality games in that case. Please don't try to fool yourself into thinking the iPhone's game quality in anyway competes with an xbox 360 or ps3. You'd just sound ludicirious.
The iPhone is better.
I dont get the whole problem, so at certain websites the iPhone is 0.8 seconds faster in loading it then the Pre, cool now what happens when the situation is less then perfect. What about the ussual situation, I'm driving and trying to fetch a website, switch from zone to zone now what mobile will keep up? I dont know for the Pre but I do know that the iPhone simply will fail before the 3.0 release (after I havent bothered anymore). Speed is one thing, reliability is the other and for some people most important.
Now you could argue ofcourse the Apple experience is what matters to people and sure that has been for quite some time, so was Altavista and so was Gateway and who remembers those? Apple had a premium mobile 2 years ago nowadays its just an outdated toy which lacks still basic functionality. Sure it looks swell but if we look at the numbers the iPhone isn't the #1 best selling phone nor in the smartphone selection. Apple better shows something people are waiting for, an OLED screen, actually multitasking and a proper camera instead of a crappy 3MP one, and the list could go on and on.
But indeed we could consider the iPhone as sexy, and for sure it was for some time but the other manufacturers have caught up and keep the research rolling. So plz.. Apple get your act together and push out something as cool as it was 2 years ago. The tech world could use some proper competition instead of a mere V3.1 release.
@Paul
The problem is that you said you liked the Pre and so they feel you're being condescending and that you're basically an arrogant, Apple snob at heart. You should have just said that the Palm Pre will never be 1/10th the smartphone that the iPhone is and that if it weren't for the iPhone, Palm would never have been able to come up with the R&D to basically copy the iPhone and would have still been making TREOs and Centros until Palm filed for bankruptcy.
This is what Palm lovers understand best from Apple lovers. Apple iPhone rules and all other handsets are just upstart wannabees aiming the snatch away the smartphone crown that now belongs to the iPhone 3G S. I like the Pre, too, but we can't let Palm lovers get too giddy over the fact.
@konshuss:
That analogy was masterful.
This article and most people reading it are focused on the iPhone 3GS VS Pre but the real story is actually how much the iPhone 3G SUCKS, judging from this benchmark. This means the much touted iPhone web browsing experience is actually a painfully slow as shit experience.
I don't know if anyone commented this, but digg.com, slashdot.org and facebook.com shows automatically iPhone optimized pages based on the User Agent. Did they changed the user agent on safari mobile? If not, the iPhone and the Pre are loading different pages (lightweight on the iPhone case) on this three tests.
Engadget removed Robert's long pro-iPhone list, but they have not removed johnsushant1's long anti-iPhone list, nor have they removed bjsguess's anti-iPhone list.
Different rules for different people? So it is okay to troll on Engadget, ONLY if you're hating on the iPhone, is that the rule, guys? How about a bit of fairness, hey!