http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/ Engadget Comments for Belkin's Gigabit Powerline Adapter ups the ante for electrical outlet networking http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 23rd 2009 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
I'm currently wireless, but would like something more reliable. I'm looking at devices like these, but I hear mixed reviews.]]>Jun 23rd 2009 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
As far as price, about 1000' of cat6 and a 12 port patch panel plus all of the wall plates, jacks, etc. ran just over $100. After 12 runs, I still have over 500' of cable leftover that I've been using to make patch cables with. ]]>Jun 23rd 2009 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
I guess a lot of it depends on the design of your house.]]>Jun 23rd 2009 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
The powerline adapter simply uses the electrical wiring in your house to extend your ethernet computer network.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/I hear people in stores who work there pan it all of the time. It's called ASSUMED IGNORNACE. You assume you know ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING and you tell people it's all bad. I've installed at least 20 sites with old HomePlug 1.1, and now 2.0 AV devices and NOT run into a problem. I am running a 5 point node right now. 3 Monster PowerNet 200 modules and 2 Netgear Homeplug AV nodes. Monster doesn't provide any software, claim it's their secret sauce, but i use netgear's software to edit settings. Once they are on the same ID, all is great. I am running an HD HomeRun Dual Tuner ATSC/ClearQAM Ethernet box, an HP 7280 network printer with my 266x CF card from my SLR work, 2 notebooks, a windows gaming machine, a linux database server, a PS3, XB360 and Wii all over this network through a Netgear N router. I don't saturate it.
Sometimes i'm editing photos, downloading updates, doing backups, and watching video while someone else is also watching cable on the network.
But, if these are 150 dollars, they look good. Belkin isn't the worlds best, but, they've done lots of great equipment for consumers. I have had great Belkin equipment. I don't believe these are really HomePlug 2.0/AV though, unless there is some extented mode added to the RFC im not up on. I prefer the PowerNet from Monster (get cheap on ebay, no way at retail) because they give me 2 clean power filtered outlets for the 2 i lose. ]]>Jun 22nd 2009 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/homeplug-alliance-hits-some-milestones-rallies-the-troops-at-ce/

600MB. I will consider it later.
Can someone make me one with two outlets? I'll upgrade then.
Where the Monster PowerNets are, i really need that. ]]>Jun 22nd 2009 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
Good idea but I'd never use them if I had a choice. But at $15 a month for 10Mbps cable, I cannot complain. ]]>Jun 22nd 2009 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Please give me the specific models.
Just trying to help. AS you'll hear, alot of professionals who are also very familiar with them set them and forget them. Ofcourse, by SET, we mean run this and that make sure all is good and move on knowing were golden.
Alot of them are 'kind of ' compatible or have shipped with different firmwares and you will never know if you never run the software for them and check them. Without the Layer 2/PHY (Layer 1) software (not the company, referencing the IP stack level) to edit and verify hardware firmware, sometimes it can get all wonky for lack of a scientific term.
]]>Jun 22nd 2009 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/.. they work ok in situations where you have heavy concrete/steel issues.
.. I use them to extend an otherwise un-peerable wifi mesh with Wireless N routers on each end they do multi-floored buildings nicely.

]]>Jun 22nd 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/The devices are invisible to the network, which is why you need to use Layer2/PHY software (i still find Netgears to be tops, Linksys' will only find Linksys's devices, even if HomePlugAV, thanks for nothing Cisco).
You can really make people mad using MAC Address Filtering on the router. In general, unless someone can get one into your power system and guess it's encryption passcode (which is why you hear me saying USE THE SOFTWARE TO CONFIGURE IT) it's as safe as Wired ONLY.

I don't call anyone having trouble Liars, i'd just like them to take the time to recheck things. The most common issues are mismatched firmwares and rate issues among different brands. I use the Netgear software after using the included software to do any firmware updates. I set everything to default after getting the id's to match up.
The use of common software insures the timing/settings that they might swap up to make their stuff work better with their stuff gets wiped out.
Then establish your good password. Set and forget.
No, it's not true you will never ever have trouble.
I just laugh that some people pretend they've never snagged a wire good and had to re run one or crimp their way out of it. Not as common but i've seen homeowners snag it good.
I like these, they work for people. I get a call 'I want to rearrange my place, is there any problem? " Answer: 'No, just remember to plug the PLE devices (they are marked) DIRECTLY into your wall socket, just like it is now, no filtered outlets or surge protectors."
If you don't mind the wire running to the notebook, it certainly reminds you that your notebook isn't really that sluggish, it's just the wireless. Its invaluable if you use a networked all in one with a card reader and you often shoot in RAW, those files are large and that format needs better than wireless' 55% packet loss rate.
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I have a pair of those... they work quite well. If you have a house with 2 power circuit breakers, then you'll have to do a bit of research to see what circuits are connected to what... otherwise, they work just fine. Gigabit would be even nicer though....]]>Jun 22nd 2009 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
Although for one reason or another all my cables are Cat-6 dont know why but meh.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 23rd 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 23rd 2009 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/]]>Jun 22nd 2009 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
The one that I have are the Netgear. It's the one that looks similar to this Belkin but it's white. (Don't get the cheaper grey ones) (There are models with single ports or has 4 ethernet ports, which allows for multiple connections)
Mine are incredibly reliable. I've never had a dropped connection. They also do NOT run hot. Barely warm to the touch.
Definitely much more convenient than running cable throughout the house and more reliable than wireless.
There is no lag as well. My house was built around the early 90s so it's not that old but it's not that new either.

What's great about the Netgear is that it is "true" plug and play. All those other devices that falsely claim to be plug and play, you gotta install some software then configure, then maybe it will work.

Now, if only Bellsouth/ATT will fix their crappy DSL connections...

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1. increases speed between devices within your home
2. Reduce the latency/delay introduced by other networking mechansims liks Wireless etc.

But as others pointed out, it is never going to be as good or as reliable as the good old wire.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/Jun 22nd 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/belkins-gigabit-powerline-adapter-ups-the-ante-for-electrical-o/
-jp

PS: My cat's breath smells like cat food.
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