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Their fail knows no limits.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Sorry but HTC is the better option here, at least compared to what Motorola's putting out.

And yes they'll lock it down/cripple it but software limitations are much easier to overcome than bad hardware.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Hm, that's doubtful, seeing as how HTC keeps turning out phones with no headphone jacks. Not exactly smart.

That said, this MOT offering looks like a shower radio. Sad.]]>Jun 23rd 2009 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
i know this is months late, but hey look, the droid isnt a fail]]>Jan 10th 2010 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Yea, for Verizon, that's where similarity ends. "and loaded with software 'enhancements' by Verizon to 'improve' the user experience with their first Android phone on Verizon".]]>Jun 22nd 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 23rd 2009 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Feb 4th 2011 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Let's see how much Verizon can screw up Android by adding a bunch of crap VZ programs to clog up the OS. ]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
They are so f'ing clueless as to what people like.

-Taylor]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 25th 2009 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
and i though sprint was more open than verizon, but now verizon seems to be catching up

]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
I'm SURE with Sprint being one of the long standing members of the OHA that they have been working on 1 or more Android handsets and will reveal them when the time is right.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Unfortunately it seems the Pre has all the inertia that Android was *supposed* to have as far as the promise of an open device to do interesting things on.

We'll see what happens but in 6-12 more months people will still care as little about android as they do today.]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Another problem I expect is that the UI doesn't look very responsive. For example when you rotate the Magic it uses that cheese zooming effect to hide the fact that resizing the UI takes so long! For phones with this amount of power you expect something better. I think this is mainly due to their poor choice of Java and lack of a JIT. See here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2009/01/dalvik-vs-mono.html]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
And my G1 is amazing. After years with windows mobile and then the iPhone, I love my G1 more than any other phone i have ever had.

I can't wait to see what comes out next. My only complaint is my G1 is unlocked and running on AT&T, so I don't get 3G, but I will be jumping on anything from HTC and ATT if it's good!
-Taylor]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Motorola: -5

I was kinda forced into verizon myself, but they really don't have many great phones, at&t has iphone and such, sprint has the first android and the pre for awhile, best verizon has is the htc pro/diamond]]>Jun 22nd 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
Oh, and they will disable all the best features of the phone.

Great network, dumb engineers.
]]>Jun 22nd 2009 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 22nd 2009 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Anyways, I think Verizon will prolly strip it like everything else. Why must they do that all the time? :(]]>Jun 22nd 2009 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
*lives in Calgary*]]>Jun 23rd 2009 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 23rd 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/Jun 23rd 2009 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/
But i'm a windows guy, which might make me switch from big red to Att just out of principle.]]>Jun 23rd 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/t-mobile-verizon-set-to-offer-android-based-motorola-phones-thi/-Verizon has actually started releasing firmware that unlocks the GPS on some phones
-to truly lock down Android would require OS level changes which will require them to take a branch of the OS and heavily modify it. I wouldn't think their changes would be allowed back into the Android code base so no "easy" OS upgrades/bug fixes. Verizon would be in the business of maintaining their own version of Android. It's a little much for one person (see next point). I guess they could try to push this off on Motorola but I don't think Motorola can afford to take this on.
-Verizon had a job opening for one Android developer and that job seemed to be targeted towards writing an app to tie into Verizon's voice mail.
-Jason made a great point: we can overcome a screwed up Android build. Once the CDMA code is working in Android, we should be able to just load the latest build. (I think the CDMA code was finished in January but I'm not sure it made it into cupcake, it should be in doughnut)

Now release dates...I've seen one post that contained an email supposedly from Motorola customer support saying the Calgary was in the final stages before production and it would be released "in the next month or two". The email was dated June 1st, 2009, so may in July? (I can supply a link it anyone want to ready it.)]]>Jun 23rd 2009 1:41PM