Been hankering to see what Flash -- via the
Open Screen Project -- actually looks like on an Android (or any modern mobile) device? Well hanker no more, ya'll. Adobe has helpfully dropped a video on us which has Flash team member Adrian Ludwig demo'ing the newly minted HTC Hero (multitouch gestures included). Once the content loads up, it seems to run at a pretty snappy rate, though waiting on Flash content to appear doesn't look encouraging if you're in the midst of casual browsing (or on a weak connection). We'll be interested to see what this is like in the real world -- and for platforms beyond Android -- but for now at least we've got something to go on.
Read - HTC Hero: The first Android device with Flash
Read - New HTC Hero Delivers More Complete Web Browsing Experience with Adobe Flash Technology
posted June 24th 2009 10:09AM
Wow, I had JUST sent this tip in!
But OMG.
Sure death to anyone who says you DON'T need Flash. This is just beautiful!
Give me the option to enable this on my iPhone. Like right now. (and throw in some Hulu lovin' too please?)
iphone will never get flash just like how macbook refuse to add blu ray or hdmi output
they want you to buy videos from itunes, flash = can stream videos for free from many websites
Right, I'm completely convinced now that iPhone is not going for flash for fear of it taking away attention from games, tv shows, etc.
As poster just said...why PAY for a show you can just browse on over to Hulu or YouTube for??
Why pay for a game...when you can head on over to NewGround, AddictingGames, etc and play around.
As my later post said...give me a faster processor, better battery, and more RAM..you will have an Android lover for life!
In addition to what people have said above, I'm sure Apple won't let Adobe have access to the iPhone needed to integrate Flash into Safari, and other applications (Unless Apple integrates it themselves, but that would require Apple buying Flash).
Apple will keep 3rd party developers playing in the same digital sandbox with the same rules and policies watching over their every move.
I THINK (don't quotew me on this) I heard somewhere that Apple is trying to get Quicktime on the platform rather than Adobe so they won't have to shell out monies. But as I said...I THINK I heard that
You just wished DEATH upon me? HTML5+ECMA JIT+SMIL FTW.
But OMG.
Sure death to Flash.
@Ethana
I'm a big fan of HTML5 also (Google follower here)
But the reality is...it will be a LONG while before HTML 5 is publicly ready for computers, let alone mobile devices. And an even LONGER time before it replaces Flash content. So I mean...it's all nice wanting it...because I look forward to it too.
But you have to look at the reality and current situations. There just is no go around for Flash at the CURRENT moment. Sooooo...
what are you talking about???
iphone is the best thing since slice bread! i even used it to wipe my butt.
who needs flash when i can use iphone to do that!
WOOT!!!!
Now i can stream videos from my favorite pron sites!
Can the iPhone fanboys AND owners stop making this a iPhone post?
This is flash on Android. iPhone users should go back to their iTunes DESKTOP app and their 3.0SDK. You don;t have flash (yet), so quit your whining and b*tching about not having flash--just go buy a Hero, considering you're willing to shell out $499 for an 'upgraded' 3G-S, you can afford it.
Otherwise, Hulu FTW on Android. Looks good.
Wow, Engadget, 3 HTC article in a rows. I'm impressed.
@recharged95
To be fair, you probably ought to have requested the people who don't like the iPhone to stop posting comments that mock the lack of Flash on it since there seems to be a heck of a lot of them.
My position on this subject remains the same, however - when Adobe delivers an efficient bit of code that will run on the Mac OS then we'll see Flash on the iPhone. The ball is very much in Adobe's court and it will be interesting to see if they are even interested in making it into the locker room, let alone onto the court...
Who needs game apps from the appstore when you can play it on flash? Oh the iPhone owners are gonna be so envious about this GIANT feature. Flash is gonna be here to stay. HTML5 can wait for another 10 years. hahahahaha!
I believe that a year from now, pretty much all smartphones will offer Flash. Apple will get on board because they're not going to want to be at an enormous disadvantage, and Adobe will clearly work with them to make it work. They might not offer Flash on older iPhones if it's a resource hog though. Flash won't hurt the sales of iPhone games, which are optimized for the iPhone and iPod Touch and are dirt cheap. And Apple never intended for the iTunes store to be a major revenue source-- it's there to benefit the iPod and not the other way around.
true... and watch iphone 3GSK next year add Led light with the camera and Multitasking apple fans will scream from joy
and at 2012 apple will ad flash support and apple fans will start telling everybody how advanced is there phone
in the meantime i'll enjoy my flash games and video streams for free in my mobile phone like what i been doing since last year lol
What do people want Flash for??? Most smartphones have built-in hardware decoding for different video codecs that use 1/10 the power than if you were to use the ARM chip for decoding. Unless Flash is actually able to offload decoding onto this hardware, then flash video is only going to peg your CPU and drain the battery very quickly..
ugh. it's "y'all" not "ya'll". You + all = y'all.
Sheesh.
@iDavey
HTML5 is supported right now, almost completely, in Chrome, Safari, Firefox, and Opera.
The ONLY browsers lagging behind are IE and mobiles.
Also, even the mobile build of WebKit in Android's mobile Chrome implementation supports much of HTML5 (though broad canvas support is noticeably absent).
Yeah iPhone, take a hint.
hey webran... I'm sorry you couldnt afford two hundred bucks to be cool
(fully sarcastic, with a smidge of "eff-you" thown in)
Hello,
I am sorry you couldn't fathom the possibility that I already paid over $400 for an iPhone that can't do what this can do already.
(no sarcasm at all)
Apple took a couple of years to add copy'n'paste to the iPhone, so it won't add Flash before the next millenium. In a way, I feel sorry for all those iPhone users pretending they don't care their shiny shiny precious will never have Flash...
"In a way, I feel sorry for all those iPhone users pretending they don't care their shiny shiny precious will never have Flash..."
That's probably true - the likelihood of Adobe delivering an efficient Flash Player for the iPhone seems low so until that happens the iPhone will indeed be Flash-less.
flash is not the end-all of mobile phone/smartphone/cell phone usage. I've been using a an iPhone for a year now and have come across at most probably 20 pages give or take that I can't view, which wasn't life or death, just looked them up when I got back to the computer. Now, I'm only defending the 'no flash' thing at the expense of battery life. I would MUCH rather have a longer battery than be able to view another .01% of the pages I visit. If adobe gets their act together, sure. I hope apple sticks it on the iphone. BTW engadget - any way to figure out what the battery hit is with this phone + flash?
I cant imagine how slow it will be to load a web page with tons of flash ADs.
What are---
if the mobile browser supports add-ons, just use an extension like Adblock Plus to filter out the bad flash (i.e. annoying ads) from the good flash (i.e. hulu, youtube, game sites, etc). Plus flash supports opens the door to adobe AIR applications.
I can't wait to accidentally run my finger over those 'free emoticon ads' and have them go "SAY SOMETHING!!" arhghasdfghsdf;lgj;sldfg
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@Jaxim- Exactly. The problem is, so many applets are completely real-world unaware of what add-ons can do for a browsing experience. Chained to Safari, choice really isn't an environment they can play/work within.
no video?
no Flash video?
Yup, sucks having no video. We need to see how well this works along with how well the screen rotation works etc...
cause it's not like the first read link has a video in it or anything...oh wait
LOL...
someone who was too lazy to look thanks you ;)
Right. The trailer in the demo was just a series of still pictures played really, really fast.
Trailer?? The video was an actual interview with the man...what the hell are you people looking at =\
@iDavey
he's talking about the transformers 2 trailer that was played on the device, which i agree looks like a slide show, the game however seemd smooth (that would be the penguin game shown later)
And...this is running on 528Mhz processor and 288MB RAM.
Just imagine at LEAST a Tegra/Snapdragon processor at 700Mhz and 256+RAM
My good googly moogly. We'd have a wonderful thing on our hands.
Can you see completely free gaming. I can see why Apple wouldn't want this on their phone. With access to Flash gaming...it could take away attention from the gaming platform
(although the penguin game wasn't a good example...so I'd need to see more proof of flash games working)
@iDavey: "Can you see completely free gaming. I can see why Apple wouldn't want this on their phone. With access to Flash gaming...it could take away attention from the gaming platform"
Bingo. The iPhone is perhaps the greatest mobile phone on the planet...except for the dictator that controls it. And so, others step in to fill the void. The free market is a wonderful thing.
The greatest monuments are created by dictators.
Well sure, but of course the rumor is that Apple didn't crank the MHz all the way up on the iPhone 3GS because doing so would have made the battery life even worse, given that some people think its already unacceptable.
Course you could make it a firmware option, and sell a really thick device with a bigger battery, assuming people would make that compromise.
take that iphone! i bet theyll add this 'feature' around version 7
Apple WWDC 2017: "We are pleased to announce that Mobile safari is going to have flash for iphone and ipod touch.... when hell freezes over!"
@Ivan
+5 you witty little thing! LMAO
Please please PLEASE include Flash on the ZuneHD.
Zune HD + Tegra + Flash= Totally BadAzz.... And to answer ur question the Zune HD iz supposed to have lil' bits of WM7 in it so I would expect the browser to have flash.
Adobe has already said that tegra will have gpu acceleration for flash.
I'm afraid the Zune HD won't have flash for the same reason the iphone won't, MS wants you to buy what flash gives you for free.
I hope the HD gets flash, but I'm not holding my breath.
I think the Zune HD will have flash (including games)for one reason: Flash games and full on 3d games (like are rumored and plausible because of tegra) do not compete with each other. The flash games will be awesome, sure, but they can't make use of the truly amazing 3d graphics like specially developed games can. I see flash as a great user friendly move that provides a large number of great games and a dedicated game store as a smart move for users who want to be able to play games without wifi and want to utilize that awesome tegra processor.
Photoshop screen mockups are not real demos....however, with that said. Once there are 20 million HTC devices running Flash perhaps (and only then) will Apple wake up and decide to add Flash to the iPhone. Hopefully it happens before 20.