http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/ Engadget Comments for China delays plan for mandatory "Green Dam" internet filter http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
The exception to the rule is Stephen Conroy, an Australian politician who has stopped at nothing to get the internet filter introduced in Australia. Hes not old, just a dumb ass.]]>Jun 30th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jul 1st 2009 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
Besides, China is the icon of SHITTYNESS! I personally try to boycott China by NOT buying stuff "Made in China", however, it's damn tough, almost impossible, those red bastards got us by the balls! They can destroy our economies in days if they wish to! F*ck that!]]>Jul 1st 2009 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
Damn them with their limiting of Human Civil Rights.......We should stop selling electronics to them....but the $$$$ Speaks louder than their rights it seems.]]>Jun 30th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/> We should stop selling electronics to them

Have you looked on the underside of the electronics sold to YOU, lately? ]]>Jun 30th 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
]]>Jun 30th 2009 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
give the people pr0n ftw ]]>Jun 30th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/But the underground will rule the world]]>Jun 30th 2009 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Now if they really wanted to censor and spy on people with this they'd just rootkit all the computers sold in China instead of simply making the computer manufacturers include filtering software. The software isn't even pre-installed so only people who actually want to censor their own internet would install it.
Frankly all the Chinese attempts at censorship have only ever made it difficult for your "average Joe" to get unfiltered access to the internet. But every computer savvy person in China knows how to bypass the great firewall, and if this is really another attempt at censoring it's definitely one of those things where only computer illiterate people would actually be affected by it. For one thing even if an OEM decided to pre-install it for some moronic reason you would only need to be computer literate enough to reinstall Windows. Or install Linux.
And that's only if you're insanely paranoid, because the uninstall function appears to work just fine and actually removes everything save for a few log files:
http://www.cse.umich.edu/~jhalderm/pub/gd/
I really think this is just a Chinese law mostly meant to force PC manufacturers to bundle porn filtering software "for the kids" in China. It's easy to misinterpret as another attempt at forced internet censorship since China does that with the great firewall, but I actually think this is just a kludgy and crappy piece of software meant for parents to censor what their kids see. Otherwise it wouldn't be a voluntary install, and it sure as heck wouldn't have a functioning uninstall feature.
To state the rather obvious, since green dam updates it's blacklist off an existing list of blacklisted URLs, if China really wanted to block those URLs they would just put it into the great firewall and that would be that. It seriously would make no sense to use voluntarily installed software that could be uninstalled to block those URLs, unless you realize that it's just meant for parents to filter the internet for their kids.]]>Jul 1st 2009 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
More like Goddamn Internet Filter......]]>Jun 30th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
No matter what the chinese government does, there will be ways of getting around it. The days of propaganda and censorship are just about over.

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Ahhh shit. The population just doubled. ]]>Jun 30th 2009 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
I am happy to live in America. Who instead does not scare me with regulation but infringes on my privacy (and just does not tell me and thus I am blind and not annoyed.)]]>Jun 30th 2009 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jul 1st 2009 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 9:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/(related wikipedia, photo, youtube, blog...)

However, if you do the same thing at GOOGLE.COM.CN, it will never return any information about the incident. All you get is irrelevant information.At the bottom of the search, Google China will tell you "据当地法律法规和政策，部分搜索结果未予显示" (some of the search results are not shown in accordance with local regulations and policies"]]>Jul 7th 2009 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/
Maybe they should consider moving on.]]>Jul 1st 2009 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jul 1st 2009 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jul 1st 2009 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/One of the reasons why they're so paranoid about internet censorship is probably because Tiananmen happened, which convinced the rulers that outside governments were trying to stir up rebellion and overthrow the government. Which may very well be true, since this was the very end of the Cold War and 1989 is also the year the Berlin wall fell.
Most people in China know that freaking out the government generally just results in less freedoms, and given the massive improvement in economic and living circumstances most of them have enjoyed over the last 20 years there just aren't that many people who really want to go test the government when there isn't much to gain for it and a lot to lose.
Most people who live in China don't actually have much of a problem with the government. Since there's 1.5 billion people there, if even a tiny percentage of people actually cared enough to protest it would cause a of a lot of problems even if 99% of people didn't care, since 1% of 1.5 billion is 15 million people.
Of course this doesn't excuse their excessive censorship of anything even slightly political, and insistence on not letting people read alternate versions of history. It's probably actually a good thing that some things are censored, since the internet lets fringe groups feel like there's lots of people who think the same way-look at all the racist websites (like the guy who shot up that museum), terrorist websites, etc. But hopefully someday soon they won't be so insecure and paranoid about people trying to overthrow the government and will just let people read stuff like Wikipedia.
But the truth is that for probably 90%+ of the population of China, the only problems they have in their life are being solved by the current government. And while it stinks not being able to read Wikipedia without using a VPN, and it's annoying that youtube gets censored every other week at random, these just aren't huge enough issues that people are going to go risk pissing off the government.]]>Jul 1st 2009 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/china-delays-plan-for-mandatory-green-dam-internet-filter/Jun 30th 2009 10:07PM