http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/ Engadget Comments for Dell Taiwan gets sidelined after second 'bargain' incident http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
"this was supposed to be the clock article? wtf?"

It's obviously the Dell Taiwan site at work.]]>Jul 6th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
I think its funny that all the major corporations that were out at the time, namely the Wiz, did what eddie did and matched prices if you got a better deal from Pc Richards.]]>Jul 6th 2009 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
Best Buy is just souless compared to these shops where towards the end it just felt like you were being hard sold on even a set of batteries. ]]>Jul 6th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
its their....100 years or something anniversary]]>Jul 6th 2009 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
I'm NOT sure you can call it a paradise.]]>Jul 6th 2009 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
The Taiwan lowest official price is about $1847.7
The US official price for a nearest configuration is $1508, with extra WWAN support and a better Hard drive, which is $340 cheaper.
The Hongkong official price with a better hard drive is about $1345.7, whis is about $500 cheaper.
The price is about $1386 on internet, but you could probably get a better price from non-authorized retailers.]]>Jul 6th 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/HK price should be about $1403.]]>Jul 6th 2009 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/US price is $1607 without tax.]]>Jul 7th 2009 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
Somebody in the corporate ladder is probably taking full credit for these "mistakes". Thousands of customers right now are trying every possible combination of CPU/Screen/Accessories, hoing to trigger the jackpot.]]>Jul 6th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
is marketing ever really held accountable? Dilbert says no]]>Jul 6th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
People are always going to make mistakes like this, there's no way to insure perfect accuracy all the time. Protections are in place to prevent a bait-and-switch style scam, but apparently enforcement in Taiwan has no flexibility to allow for honest mistakes. This is a legislative oversight.]]>Jul 6th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
Oh please, tell me your joking. Dell has thousands of items on their web site, with prices that change regularly. Apple offers a small fraction of that amount, and almost never changes their prices. I'm sure Apple would make an occasional mistake if they had as much going on as Dell too. ]]>Jul 6th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/dell has pricing errors practically every day of the whole damn year. like i said, if they want to change the prices for their crappy products every other day then they should hire someone who has the i.q. of a 10 year old to make those changes. i say screw 'em...if it was once in a while it would be understandable but their incompetence is a joke. they deserve to honor their price mistakes.]]>Jul 6th 2009 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
Calm down dude, ever thought about stop buying DELL?]]>Jul 6th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
Why is it that you feel Dell OWES you something?]]>Jul 6th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 18th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
It's called offer and acceptance which creates a mutually binding agreement. Assuming Kevin Wang actually bought a computer online. It's a contract, hence, they owe him something.

What exactly is your big gripe over someone complaining about an offeree essentially backing out of a deal.

When a seller mistypes a price on ebay and someone buys it, do you think "It was a typo" is going to excuse them from going through with the deal?
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you don't mind if we call you by your nick name do you...eh dick?]]>Jul 6th 2009 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
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Dell originally posted LCD monitors for $15 each (with limited supply). After 14,000 orders, Dell decided that it does not want to honor the sale and refused to give refunds. Instead, it offers $30 coupon for the next purchase. Dell still want to keep the $150 for the monitor.

This past Sunday, Dell offers E4300 at deep discounted, refused to give refunds and instead, give $600 coupons toward the next purchase.

In the US, it is called "bait and switch" and it is illegal. Taiwan has similar laws, but because it is small and the Dell officials in Taiwan are incompetent, Dell Taiwan took a hard line and refused to give refunds. That's why the consumer agencies and the government agency stepped in.]]>Jul 6th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
E4300 DELL USA $1344-$1515 (about NT44352-49995)
DELL JP 11980-12980 (about NT41393-44843)
DELL HK 9700-more (about NT41516-more)
DELL CHINA RMB9499-more (about NT43695-more)
DELL TW NT60900-more (about $1845-more)]]>Jul 6th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/Jul 6th 2009 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/06/dell-taiwan-gets-sidelined-after-second-bargain-incident/
Recently, few similar mislabeling price cases happened in Japan, Hong Kong and Mainland China (on IBM, HP, and Dell). IBM and HP honored all orders. Dell, again, refused to do so and provided 25%off discount. Some took it, some not and went to court instead. Dell lost the case and was forced to honor the orders. It all depends on at which point the contract is considered complete, in other words, when both sides reach an agreement on the deal. If it goes to when buyers hit “confirm” button, then even those tiny waiver text cannot protect Dell from this mess…It cannot against the low, or at least Taiwan's law in the case. I will be happy to see this case brought to the court.

Don't take it for granted that the US way is the best and correct way to deal with things. I am in Boston, not sure if Taiwan is a paradise, but difintely there're something done better than here. People in the US are educated in a very capialism way. The US has the most screwed helath insurance in the world which is hold by few monster companies. When people in other place like Taiwan take it for granted that government take care of their health. Americans still have no idea what they could have and keep defending their screwed system, claiming it's better than their neighbor Canada and Cuba. Just try to top being so considerate to those companies...they are not the weak in most cases.

The bottom line is, it’s not consumers’ job to judge if the price is “reasonable” or not. Any price made by companies should be considered as a result after profitability calculations. A line should be drawn, to make sure companies won’t abuse it for marketing, promotion or other mal-intentions. It’s also sellers responsibility to protect themselves from any mistake made by themselves, such as price mislabel. It’s not consumers business to be so considerate to those companies and worry about if they can take the hit.

I am not saying Dell should honor all orders in this case. But to let it get away like this is simply not right. Dell lost almost nothing so far, by giving alway those no-one-will-use coupons. Dell needs to learn the lesson by paying a mugh higher price.
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