http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/ Engadget Comments for HTC Hero vs. T-Mobile myTouch 3G... fight! http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
with that said, people pounded on the g1 for its chin, but so many people have been talking about the great form factor of the hero, wtf?

the hero looks just like the g1, minus a keyboard

i don't understand you internet, gadget, iphone loving, kids. i guess anything to hate on the new android device i guess]]>Jul 8th 2009 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
No I don't, because it doesn't have dedicated zoom keys. What the hell are you talking about?]]>Jul 8th 2009 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
The Hero is pushing boundaries, and for the first time in years, I can say that there's a handset I definitely want.]]>Jul 8th 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
I do believe Brandon was referring to the key next to the trackball on the Hero that has a magnifying glass on it. I'm not sure it's a zoom key, though...it could be a search key. Anyways, chill out dude.

It never ceases to amaze me how people (commenters on Engadget the internet, in general) are so quick to make others look like an ass by correcting them. Turns out, you are only making an ass of yourself by getting so worked up about it.]]>Jul 21st 2009 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
-One of the best mobile Operating Systems
-One of the fastest web browsers
-Some of the best web apps on the internet
-The best, in my opinion, web e-mail service
-The best, not my opinion, although I also believe it true, search engine available

Why hate Google? They push for open source solutions and have amazing software to back it up.]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
Google is all about big brothering.]]>Jul 9th 2009 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
On the copper thing: Source please! I can find sources where MS and Yahoo have done that, but Google fights those requests.]]>Jul 9th 2009 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
What if T-Mobile pick up the HTC Hero (even though it's not a go yet) and call it the T-Mobile myMediaRightNowReallyFastSuperDuperAndroid 4G, would people call it that? I wonder.]]>Jul 8th 2009 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
Running sense ui on the g1 is way too slow and laggy even with all those "optimized roms" because the g1 only has 192megs of RAM. A swapfile helps a little, but its no substitute for more RAM.

Plus Bluetooth isn't working, nor are LEDs, plus you get all sorts of weird problems like the radio turning off for no reason that requires a reboot.

Sense UI needs 288 megs for it to be an enjoyable experience.

]]>Jul 8th 2009 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
It stands to reason that if 288MB RAM vs 192MB RAM is the only factor in how smooth the Sense UI performs then Sense UI at the minimum uses 96MB of RAM. You seriously want that thing running on your device in that case?

So no, I think there's probably optimizations there for hardware. I really don't think these fancy new UIs are all that RAM hungry. The nifty effects are a function of 3D acceleration/compositing, and little else. It's not swapping that's bogging those UIs down.]]>Jul 8th 2009 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
I'm not sure I agree with you about hardware optimization. Looking at the various hero videos, the UI isn't much faster than a G1 running at 528mhz. Most of the sluggishness is due to sense UI and the incredibly large memory hungry widgets. If you remove the htc widgets, the hero rom runs fairly decent on a g1. If you get rid of the rosie/sense ui/touch flo home screen application altogether and just run the android launcher, the hero rom runs very fast on a g1.

The htc browser, is actually very nice. Better than the 1.5 browser. ]]>Jul 8th 2009 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
Most of the custom 1.5 ROMs for the g1 are clocked at 528mhz. In addition, a lot of them incorporate some of the speed-up/optimization patches from the latest android open source repository. And those run incredibly fast.

If you own a g1, I would highly recommend the cyanogen custom 1.5 ROM. Its blazing fast on the g1 and adds a few cool features.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518851]]>Jul 8th 2009 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 9th 2009 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
The Hero doesn't use the google app store and everything, right?]]>Jul 8th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/getting tired of this]]>Jul 8th 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
cuz if it's just looks, keyboard and camera, i'll take the mytouch earlier.]]>Jul 8th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
That's the only thing that bugs me from their phones. They have been using this chip for *ages* and if I have to sell my soul away for 2 years I need a bit more future-proof processing power.]]>Jul 8th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 9th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 9th 2009 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/Jul 8th 2009 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/htc-hero-vs-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-fight/
You didn't take your meds today, did you?

Also, random capitalization is not as cool as you think it is.]]>Jul 8th 2009 7:51PM