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Im certainly missing the price too, 99c has now transformed into $6 a bulb. They last longer but dim over time which is totally not cool.

Ill tell my grandkids about the days we had incandescents....
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@Look_Around_You WTF are you talking about? Your fascist government passed the law over a year ago.]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Uh, no. Nothing but sitting in the dark will please the Washington Treehugger.]]>Jul 8th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
This would most definitely NOT please the Washington tree-huggers... Are you sitting in the dark in your house? constructed by materials of mass production? Or perhaps you are outside in the wilderness, where just your presence has the effect to affect the usual mating habits of those creatures around you, thus creating an unnatural man-made wilderness. Basic rule of thumb... Washington tree-huggers can never be pleased.

And yea, I used effect and affect in the same sentence. What, want to fight about it?]]>Jul 8th 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Don't believe me? Popular Mechanics did a fairly extensive study with 7 brands of CFL against a high quality incandescent, both quantitatively and qualitatively, the CFLs won by a mile, every time.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/home_improvement/4215199.html

There are a number of legitimate reasons to criticize CFL's (warm up, extreme temp operation, dimming & vibration), however the visual quality of the modern CFL is not one of them. ]]>Jul 8th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
No it hasn't, not by a country mile.

The test you referenced is garbage testing from a garbage publication. Here's how they described their color testing...

"To gather objective data, we used a Konica Minolta CL-200 chroma meter to measure color temperature and brightness ... Our subjective data came from a double-blind test with three PM staffers and Jesse Smith, a lighting expert from Parsons The New School for Design, in Manhattan. We put our participants in a color-neutral room and asked them to examine colorful objects, faces and reading material, then rate the bulbs’ performance."

The color meter they used is incapable of measuring CRI. Without knowing CRI, color temperature measurements cannot be compared. No objective color rendering measurements were performed and incandescent lighting, as a group, is substantially superior to fluorescent in CRI. It's objectively measurable; no double-blind testing is needed.

As for your claim that "CFL haters" will always choose CFL lighting, that's preposterous. The test used only 4 testers with precious little to characterize their qualifications or preferences. Your claim is as close to a lie as it can be.

I am a CFL hater and that's because I understand color rendering, not just pretend to. Even ignoring that huge difference, CFLs are incompatible with many light switches. I'd rather have true quality of light and a device that doesn't destroy my dimmer and blink incessantly when it should be off. For the pennies it costs, it's a no-brainer.]]>Jul 8th 2009 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
On a similar note, it was decided our building would "Go Green!" and switch to a new type of lighting. It was not researched well at all. They are still fluorescent tube lights, but they emit a hideous pink tint. To counteract it, workers were bringing in lamps from home which just made the energy costs go up higher than if they had left the old style fluorescents in place. I am about ready to go back to whale oil lanterns at this point...]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Phillips makes some good bulbs, but they can be pricey. I experimented with high output LED's but couldn't scale up to any meaningful light output without exponential cost increases. The cost comes from the need for voltage regulators and ac-dc power converters, not to mention the need for heat dissipation. (Heat will murder an LED faster than anything).]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
I can afford the energy costs, so let me use it. The planet is not going anywhere.]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
They have good color temperature but color rendition is still not as good as incandescent, so you may not be able to use them in bathrooms, etc.

The warmest n:Vision will definitely not appear green to you, you might think it's too orange in fact.]]>Jul 8th 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
If it's roughly equal in intensity to the sun, I would expect it would do more to the plants than make them grow. I'm thinking char.]]>Jul 8th 2009 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
You're better off looking at the LLF LED product (From Cree)

Of use the CFL fixtures from my company (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV5OZGfzTSc)

We can save you $10-$40 a year per fixture over LED -- Total ownership cost.]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Nov 19th 2009 7:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
On the other hand, I have replaced all of the CFC bulbs in my kitchen track lighting with LED bulbs. The light is instant on, clean 'white' light and fantastic. With 6 cans on the track, I could be using 6x75 watt normal bulbs for 450 watts of usable light, 6x13 watts of CFC bulbs for 78 watts (360 watts equivilant... not) of poor quality light or my current 6x3 watt usage for perfectly usable and clean light.
For the right purpose, LED lights are great.]]>Jul 8th 2009 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
The most efficient lamp for converting electrical energy to light is a long-bulb fluorescent. ]]>Jul 8th 2009 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Everything else was spot on. They do produce a lot of heat for their small size (another reason I tend to stick to CFL's for my fishtanks - CFL's don't require heatsinks and fans :)]]>Jul 8th 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Public opinion can make things change, we dont always need forced gvt coersion.

Take this whole Global Warming thing, most climatologists think its happening, but numerous other scientists around the globe, including one guy in the EPA who had his report squashed, and even now NASA is saying its not happening. So, before we have 100% for sure-edness, right now policy is being written bases solely on scientific consensus and not scienitific fact, we have a bill just passed called Cap and Trade that is being written by non-scientists with politicized agendas, passing on tax hikes and costs that will make us, the consumer pay even more.

I mean bulbs are expensive as hell now, thanks to Congress and politicized science.



]]>Jul 25th 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 9th 2009 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/They've been here for years...]]>Jul 8th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Uh, is it me or does that read more like: "uses a lot less power, much like staggering around in the dark - except you give us money!"

I'm just saying....]]>Jul 8th 2009 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
If you take a 60W bulb, and improve its efficiency by 50%, you're producing the same amount of light with 40W. (Yes, 40, not 30--efficiency is the inverse of the energy used.) But you can get the same amount of light with a 7W CFL. From a tree hugger's perspective, this is definitely not an improvement.]]>Jul 8th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Wow, for someone so pedantic with regards to percentages it's amazing how willfully incorrect you are with your own statements.]]>Jul 8th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
Why should I pay someone to "recycle" it when 99% of these companies just ship everything to 3rd world countries.]]>Jul 8th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 9:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 8th 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/Jul 9th 2009 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/08/incandescent-bulbs-making-a-comeback-ge-still-launching-new-led/
1- To Little, To Late -
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080326103035.aspx

2. The dark side of energy efficient bulbs -
http://www.phillyfuture.org/node/5297/

3- Fluorescent Light Bulb Warning-
http://www.newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalind1.htm ]]>Jul 9th 2009 12:24AM