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Or does it mean Toshiba won O2?

Hold on!

O2 won the Palm Pre, right? That's what all the media reported.

Okay!

O2 won the Toshiba TG01!

Must have been intense competition amongst the carriers...

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If you were trying to be funny, you fail at that too.]]>Jul 9th 2009 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
I believe it is supposed to be Freaking Legit. Not "idiot spelled stupidly."]]>Jul 9th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/]]>Jul 9th 2009 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561504149/eejit.html]]>Jul 9th 2009 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
(Start the down ranking for me saying iPhone now....) ]]>Jul 9th 2009 7:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
But seriously what's up with this phone? Yeah the home screen looks great, Snapdragon is awesome, the device itself looks pretty nice. etc. etc. But just with one tap on Toshiba's menus you're already in WM hell; Internet Explorer Mobile and Windows Media Player Mobile being the worst. ]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.wmexperts.com/video-toshiba-tg01-sporting-windows-mobile-65
man it smokes.]]>Jul 9th 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
Nice hardware ruined by a shit OS.]]>Jul 9th 2009 7:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/windows mobile needs to play catch up big time to compete with the likes of android / webOS...

you can skin windows mobile all day long to make it look pretty on the surface, but when you need to go past that into windows mobile to adjust settings it really shows it's age.
]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
For one, its Windows. Even windows on thw PC is a shit operating system.
 MS tried implementing Windows on a mobile device thinking that just shrinking everything physically made sense. It doesnt. Why do I need a strat bar or close buttons on a mobile? Why such a complicated keyboard that forces me to use a stylus? Why is there scrollbars on the sides? Why Why is it so ugly? HTC has done a good job at skining it but underneath its still Windows.
Apple did the right thing. They didnt just make a phisically smaller OS X. They worked from the ground up and asked "what do we need this thing to do, and whats the simplest way to o it?" Took the kernel and added an excellent UI on top. Google did the same thing with Android. And thats why iPhone OS and Android take a steaming dump on WinMo.]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
You have to wonder, those who always wish android on WinMo phones, why these manufacturers choose WinMo for their flagship phones if it is shitty.]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
"For one, its Windows. Even windows on the PC is a shit operating system."
That's open to interpretation, it's not a fact; all you saying that will do is show that you're probably biased.

"MS tried implementing Windows on a mobile device thinking that just shrinking everything physically made sense. It doesnt."
Sure it does! The average Windows user is already familiar with these concepts and the UI; a Windows user knows where most things are in a WinMo device already, more than likely before they even use one.

"Why do I need a strat bar or close buttons on a mobile?"
Well.. you don't NEED anything there sport, but the start and close buttons function with multitasking. You can go to a programs list within any menu, and any program, without having to go back to a home screen or anything else first. And well.. multitasking is a godsend, trust me. RIM users know what I mean.

"Why such a complicated keyboard that forces me to use a stylus?"
Largely, it doesn't, especially 6.5. Obviously, you haven't used one.

"Why is there scrollbars on the sides?"
Uh.. the same reason they're on ALL desktop OS major players, to let you know the length of a list/page, and your position in it.

"Why Why is it so ugly? HTC has done a good job at skining it but underneath its still Windows."
Again.. interpretation. And of COURSE it's still Windows.. if it wasn't Windows, it wouldn't be Windows Mobile, would it?

"Apple did the right thing. They didnt just make a phisically smaller OS X. They worked from the ground up and asked "what do we need this thing to do, and whats the simplest way to o it?" "
Not totally true, plenty of iPhone die-hards, as much as they love it, have complaints about the OS, I hear fairly often "It takes so many taps/swipes to get to settings I'd want at a top-level menu/setting". And there are plenty of complaints about what's NOT on other smartphones that perhaps should be. You've all heard these things before.

"Took the kernel and added an excellent UI on top."
This is probably the truest thing you've said in this post.. even though it's a modified, streamlined OSX kernel.

Facts are awesome, junior. Using them is even more awesome. Write that down.]]>Jul 9th 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
This is almost not worth commenting on, but...

For one, its Windows. Even windows on thw PC is a shit operating system. ]]>Jul 9th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
This is almost not worth commenting on, but...

For one, its Windows. Even windows on thw PC is a shit operating system. ]]>Jul 9th 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
@ derekblankmccoy

This is almost not worth commenting on, but...

For one, its Windows. Even windows on thw PC is a shit operating system. ]]>Jul 9th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
@ derekblankmccoy

For one, its Windows. Even windows on thw PC is a shit operating system.
-Wow, that really has some meat behind it, besides the numbers behind users for operating systems...I can agree that Window's isn't the end all, but that is why there are other options...for everyday computing, games, and applications it's the best; i wouldn't doubt that Mac might have it topped for audio/video editting and there are better real time OS's for high speed data acquisition, but for everyday use, Window's is hard to beat.

MS tried implementing Windows on a mobile device thinking that just shrinking everything physically made sense. It doesnt. Why do I need a strat bar or close buttons on a mobile? Why such a complicated keyboard that forces me to use a stylus? Why is there scrollbars on the sides?
-Window's mobile is far more than just a shrunken version of there main OS, if you are refering to the looks (and not the core) they did it so there is less adjustment. The GUI things you are complaining about have been addressed by other manufacturers (HTC), but it doesn't make it bad. WinMo was out before touchscreen so the scroll bars were helpful in finding placement on page...even with it, it helps define that. Keyboard is a function of the device manufacture, sure there is a default one buit into windows, but most manufacturer's have their own or and external one (which is way easier anyways). As for why a close button, its because you actually have the option of minimizing and closing applications giving you the freedom to have any and as many apps open as you want...the close can be configured to either end the app or minimize it btw

Why Why is it so ugly?
-nice opinion

HTC has done a good job at skining it but underneath its still Windows.
Apple did the right thing. They didnt just make a phisically smaller OS X. They worked from the ground up and asked "what do we need this thing to do, and whats the simplest way to o it?" Took the kernel and added an excellent UI on top. Google did the same thing with Android. And thats why iPhone OS and Android take a steaming dump on WinMo
-Its true that WinMo is having market share 'taken' away by other manufacturer's, but competition will do that reguardless. I diagree taht iPhone's UI is the best, if I just wanted an app launcher I could just use the start menu or many other forms (HTC's programs tab on TouchFlo), but i like having default screens with phone, contacts, and text messaging related features (aka the main thing that makes a phone a phone) instead of launching apps. Apple's OS is smoother due to its OS and hardware control (they make the phone and the software), but I prefer winmo's customizing and inherent capabilities]]>Jul 9th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
On the other hand you have the TG01 with a huge screen, fast main processor and minuscule 1000mAh battery. I've read a few reviews, and they all agree on one thing: if you actually use the device, prepare for a 6h battery life at best. On top of that, Toshiba's UI customization is called outright bad and laggy despite all the hardware brute force, it doesn't have a 3.5mm jack and call quality is terrible as well.]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
Makes an iPhone look pretty small next to it... http://www.smartphone-blog.de/wp-content/image/tg01-iphone.jpg]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
Still trying to get used to the size of my Touch Diamond 2 compared to the Touch Diamond.

This is in the 'I need a man bag because my pocket just wont do' category.]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 7:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
I'm running an android device and with all the lag in multitask or even just getting back to the home screen/ loading widgets this is the processor I'm looking for. a less then 10 mm thing phone with a 1 ghz processors for free is unbelievable. Whats the batteries Mah? Will these be available unlocked?]]>Jul 9th 2009 8:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
One of my favorite PIM apps is Pocket Informant. With WM, you use the built in calendar data with Pocket Informant, but Apple does not allow Pocket Informant to use the built-in Apple calendar data. You have to use the built-in Pocket Informant calendar data, or sync with Google calendar due to Apple's restrictions. With WM, if I don't like the built-in app, I can purchase a third party app that uses the same calendar data that other apps use. With Apple, if I don't like the built-in calendar app, or find it limiting, I can now purchase third party apps, but must maintain a separate data source.

Again, I respect other opinions, but I do prefer the WM apps. Yeah, it would be nice if the icons etc. were bigger on WM, and you can get 3rd party apps that "out-iPhone" the iPhone.]]>Jul 9th 2009 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/Jul 9th 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/09/video-toshiba-tg01-officially-exclusive-to-orange-uk/
Do not sign up for 2 year contracts people, it is your fault I had to change from a 12 month to 18 month last time I upgraded, longer contracts suck.

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