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Yes and no. On one hand it's not the prettiest device (but then neither was the sidekick) so you could argue it's a fail on the other this is Nokia teaming up with a US carrier to offer a subsidised handset which is long overdue.

As for S60 beign a 'fail', it isn't. Seriously.]]>Jul 13th 2009 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
if AT&T would offer it without data plan, a lot of kids could get it, with $30 data plan nobody will buy it]]>Jul 13th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
This one looks perfectly fine, but its only $20 cheaper. If i'm going to shell out for a data plan, I want a good OS experience to go with it (OSX \ WebOS \ Heck... even WinMo).

I've yet to use a symbian phone that offered a good web browsing experience. That said, for calling \ texting only, I actually really like Symbian. To dial a number in my iPhone I have to tap as many as four buttons before I can get to the keypad. Talk about frustrating.]]>Jul 13th 2009 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/please hateboys, give yourselves a break.

*Pre fan*]]>Jul 13th 2009 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
Because they want to get more money out of you?

@greatsun:

If they want to avoid people accidentally racking up bills, they don't need to solve that by requiring ever higher bills - although you can see why that solution would appeal to them...

Instead they need to bring their pricing technology into, say, the 19th century. You know how when you're in a shop and you're about to buy something, they tell you how much it costs? Instead of sending you a bill at the end of the month where you suddenly find out that your chocolate bar cost £450?

Like that, but for phones.

Why doesn't the status line of every phone contain a 'current bill' indicator that updates, live, to show your current phone bill (or if you are on pay-as-you-go, remaining credit)? And if there are any large jumps (more than 0.20 say, but they could let the user set their preferred threshold) in this charge, then why isn't there a confirm screen that appears before you go ahead with that action? [Would include charged SMSs, premium-rate calls, etc etc.]

In addition they should probably set everyone a maximum threshold for monthly bill, default at some reasonably low value, where you just have to confirm a text message if you want to go over it.

Yes this all requires some significant technology changes but given a year or two to change over it should be absolutely possible. I can't see phone companies doing this themselves unless the EU mandates it or something, though - it's mainly in their interest to keep secret what you're being charged.
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Get a phone that requires a data plan. Pay it for the first month. Pop out the SIM card and put it into your "non smarthphone" phone and use it for a few days. Call ATT and tell them that you're using the "dumbphone" so you don't need the $30 plan. They'll bump you down to the $15 unlimited data plan. Pop the SIM card back into the smartphone and you're all good.]]>Jul 13th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
However maybe this is because my phone is a bit old, or because my network is crap?

To be honest, PAYG is not the biggest problem area here since you can't overspend beyond what credit you have.]]>Jul 13th 2009 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
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RESPECT

]]>Jul 13th 2009 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
The AT&T data plan is UNLIMITED. It's not capped like Verizon.

AT&T has an app on the iPhone that lets you look at your usage and your bill, and make changes to your plan.]]>Jul 13th 2009 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
Maybe.

But only just a little less terrible.

Of course, someone would still be stuck with an ugly ass phone that people will laugh at them for, and their mockery will make users anti-social, thus rendering this "social media freak" demographic completely useless.

Alas.]]>Jul 13th 2009 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/
Its not for me at all, but then it isn't aimed at me. It was however very small so I guess it will fit in certain age groups hands no problem]]>Jul 13th 2009 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Aug 7th 2009 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/*sigh*
You sound like a teenage girl on MySpace.
Maybe you should get a Xenon.]]>Jul 13th 2009 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 14th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/13/nokias-surge-official-on-atandt-ships-july-19-for-79-99/Jul 13th 2009 12:31PM