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Maybe the US could use some stimulus money to make jobs for this kind of project, and it would be only 1/4 the cost.]]>Jul 16th 2009 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
*but costly]]>Jul 16th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Why do we need privacy? I'm not talking 1984/BNW here, but who gives a crap about privacy?

Its not a conspiracy theory - its efficiency. Stop resisting progress.]]>Jul 16th 2009 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
I care about privacy.
]]>Jul 16th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
What does having an ID card registering who you are and what you've done in society have anything to do with Freedom or Privacy?

You want to be off the grid? Try it, find a section of woods somewhere and don't get any utilities, or pay taxes of any kind. have fun with your freedom.

The rest of the country will try to be civilized and be accountable for the person you are in every day life, part of a society.

This isn't the dark ages anymore. This isn't some fishing village where you know the 30 people who live within 2 miles, and the rest of the world is hidden.

People are popping more and more kids out like its going out of style in the US, more and more people crossing the boarders. It is becoming a cess pool, and anything to help "keep track of wtf is going on" is fine]]>Jul 16th 2009 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
You should really trade in your screen name.

]]>Jul 16th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/we all want progress, but not at the cost of our freedoms and powers


just imagine if you were an activist, fighting against the regime - all the things they could do to you just by flagging your 'account'.

you know in London, where they have all those CCTV cameras, they also have microphones everywhere. coupled together with their facial recognition software and their image database from licenses and passports, all they have to do is type in your name to get your location with live video and sound.

if you don't work against this, you will deserve to live in the cage you let them build around you.]]>Jul 16th 2009 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/1) Cut up those credit cards and store cards
2) Remove yourself from facebook and other social networking sites
3) Throw away your cellphone

All of the above give away far more information about you than an ID card.]]>Jul 16th 2009 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
Right now, we have an ID system. As time progresses, ID systems have to advance to keep them relatively accurate. A biometric system is simply an advancement. It's no more or less "private" than any other ID system.

What they do with the ID system may be another story.]]>Jul 16th 2009 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
Any day you want to, you can deceide you just born again, you have another name, another address, another identity. If you do a good work running far away, they will never find you.

With biometric, however, you're busted for the rest of your life, no matter where you go. You can't change your biometric fingerprints.

And yes, it IS wrong that the government has all your information. It already happened in Mexico: The drug lords have access to databases stolen from the government, and it IS happening right now that if you dare do something against any of them, they will kill all your family and burn down your business.
Don't tell me such things don't happen, because it already happened and it's going on as I write this.
It only gets worse as other delinquents get access to that database, which is also happening (ie. kidnappers). Mexico right now is not all that far from a revolution.

It has happened in the USA too, even at the FBI level: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Anyone who supports actions like this is dooming their children, no matter how low ranked I get...

@Canis: Indeed, I don't have a cellphone. Neither do I use social networking or any of that crap.]]>Jul 16th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/"Why is it scary?
Why do we need privacy? I'm not talking 1984/BNW here, but who gives a crap about privacy?"

Okay, fine-- post pictures of your genitals and your parents' and siblings' genitals on engadget; well-lit and high-resolution. Also, upload for us video recordings of you having sex with your significant other.]]>Jul 16th 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/]]>Jul 16th 2009 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
-Benjamin Franklin]]>Jul 16th 2009 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/-Franklin]]>Jul 16th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
If India were to spend a little bit of money teaching their people about family planning the number of ID's necessary and overall cost would go down. Just a thought.
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The world can definitely support the current population. The problem is the amount of resources that people consume. Did you know we in the US contribute for about 25% of global warming? If you are so concerned about the world, better change your consumer oriented lifestyle and be more responsible, not criticize others.]]>Jul 16th 2009 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
Lets actually prove global warming A) exists and B) is caused by people before we start assigning percentages of blame to different nations for it. I'm pretty sure it was just 52F here in Philadelphia 3 nights ago (June 13th), and that was a RECORD LOW. ]]>Jul 16th 2009 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
Well, before you ask your racially charged "they" to stop having kids because the world cannot support them, consider this. The US consumes ~30% of the world's resources, but has less than 5% of the population. As others have pointed out, the number of people is not the problem, it's the lifestyle.]]>Jul 16th 2009 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/Jul 16th 2009 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/16/india-issuing-biometric-ids-to-all-1-2-billion-citizens/
My point is with unsustainable population growth and growing desires to industrialize there will disastrous consequences.

You can have one or the other. If India continues industrializing and educating its people, the traditional affect has been a decrease in population growth. But by the time this happens, there could be well over 2 billion Indian people all striving for the american dream.
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