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show some love, nub!]]>Jul 23rd 2009 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
I don't care how "professional" you think you look. You're failing your company as CEO. A lot of people are getting bitter about ATT's decisions to it's customers. Particularly with the iPhone.

-delaying MMS(still)
-No Slingbox
-No tethering(still)
-arm and a leg for data rates

On the other hand I"m sure they're making money hand over fist so the board members could care less. M-O-N-E-Y]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
Definitions of wet on the Web:

* covered or soaked with a liquid such as water; "a wet bathing suit"; "wet sidewalks"; "wet weather"
* containing moisture or volatile components; "wet paint"
* supporting or permitting the legal production and sale of alcoholic beverages; "a wet candidate running on a wet platform"; "a wet county"
* producing or secreting milk; "a wet nurse"; "a wet cow"; "lactating cows"
* cause to become wet; "Wet your face"
* consisting of or trading in alcoholic liquor; "a wet cargo"; "a wet canteen"
* make one's bed or clothes wet by urinating; "This eight year old boy still wets his bed"
* moisture: wetness caused by water; "drops of wet gleamed on the window"
* besotted: very drunk

Your truly,

-You All Suck]]>Jul 23rd 2009 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
(couldn't resist)]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 24th 2009 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 24th 2009 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
(couldn't resist either)]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
And iPhone sales should take off once Apple isn't shackled by AT&T.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
4G ON VERIZON PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE!!!!

]]>Jul 23rd 2009 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
You are gonna start looking elsewhere.

I still dont think Verizon is really an option - especially after VZW just announced that 'other' stores would have to be seperately downloaded onto the phone - and iTunes and the App Store - compete directly with VCast...

Maybe VZW will make an exception? Granted I will still stick with ATT because I HATE Verizon...]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
Of course, with the amount of money the iPhone would bring to Verizon, they may very well overlook that requirement.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/> "I still dont think Verizon is really an option - especially after VZW just announced that 'other' stores would have to be seperately downloaded onto the phone - and iTunes and the App Store - compete directly with VCast..."

Here's how I see it all playing out... Apple will come to Verizon, and keep its App Store and iTunes Music Store for Apple's iPhone. Apple already has an ecosystem for its phone.

Verizon can still have their app store for all the LGs, Motorolas, Windows Mobile and other phones.

The Apple App Store won't compete with VCast. Nothing you buy on VCast will work on the iPhone... and nothing on the Apple App Store will work with any other Verizon phone. So, that's not a problem at all.

Verizon does, however, want people to buy an iPhone (and a data plan) and stop using those cheap dumbphones.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
I see your point. It would be in Verizons best interest to make an 'exception' to the rule and allow iPhone to have its own ecosystem separate from VCast. But iTunes now sells DRM free music...so why couldnt I buy a song from my iPhone and pix message the song or email it as an attachment to a VZW customer [6025551234@vzwpix.com] and boom! they have a new song for their enV touch. Granted thats possible now with desktop iTunes - but it may become a little easier with carrier support of the iPhone.

Verizon does want the iPhone, sure - thats no secret. But with congress stepping in about exclusivity deals between carriers and handset manufacturers, wouldn't it be in Apples best interest to say "Fine. It now works with T-Mobile too." Apple doesnt have to re-design hardware for CDMA carriers, simply tweak software to allow a T-Mobile SIM to work. Which shouldnt be too hard since the dev team seems to unlock every software version thats released within a day or two, Apple should be able to 'flip a switch'. ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
VZW would not make any money off of App Store downloads, so they would not want users to download from it. That is why they force every manufacturer to use VCast... They would be in direct competition, so don't expect that to happen anytime soon.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/> "VZW would not make any money off of App Store downloads, so they would not want users to download from it. That is why they force every manufacturer to use VCast... They would be in direct competition, so don't expect that to happen anytime soon."

They are NOT in direct competition! And I've already explained why. The apps that you can buy from VCast only work on Verizon OS phones. Verizon won't make every Java/BREW developer recompile their VCast apps to work on the iPhone... and you're not gonna have thousands of iPhone developers make their touchscreen apps work on some crappy flip phone. The 2 app stores are NOT compatible... so you won't be taking money away from VCast if you buy an app from Apple.

If you've got an LG enV Touch... there are plenty of apps in the VCast store. And if you've got an iPhone... there's already a huge app store for that.

Look, Verizon jumped into the media/app business... but no one said that it was a good idea. Maybe Verizon will demand a cut from the Apple App Store and iTunes Store... but how could they?

AT&T doesn't make any money from the App Store at all. Apple gets 30%, developers get 70%. AT&T is a phone company... that's all.

I think Verizon learned their lesson years ago when they demanded too much from Apple... and that was BEFORE the success of the iPhone and the App Store.

Verizon just needs to get the iPhone on their network... so they can start getting $100 a month for the iPhone and the data plan... and abandon all hopes of VCast being a huge player in the media/app market.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/

Is the over-inflated pricing on their plans going to cease being exclusive, too?]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
The two big things that kept me from getting an iPhone were the network and the pricing structure. I can easily afford ~$85 a month(w/ unlimited texting), but why pay that when there are real alternatives now at ~$50 a month on a faster, more reliable network?]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
They used to get a cut in the original contract for the 1st one, but with the 3G and onward the agreement was modified so that AT&T pays a subsidy to Apple up front. Hence the phone used to cost $500 or $600, now it cost $200 or $300...]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
The rate plans seem the same if not cheaper on AT&T as the big V.

The only thing that seems more expensive is text messaging.. ?]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 23rd 2009 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
8/10 customers will take a subsidized phone with a contract over a full-price "unlocked" phone...on top of this carriers here will then charge you additionally for a SIM card (or at least they used to)

The only way for a phone carrier to subsidize sales on a phone (usually...there are exceptions...such as with the razr) is to offer a exclusivity agreement...at least at the phones initial launch.

There are pros and cons to this across the board. But thats just the way things here work in the states. ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/Jul 24th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/atandt-ceo-admits-iphone-wont-be-exclusive-forever/
Sucks.]]>Jul 27th 2009 11:43AM