http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/ Engadget Comments for Best Buy gears up for back to school crowds with Next Class-branded laptop series http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Shop @ bestbuy and get an overpriced/underpowered laptop for back to school!]]>Jul 23rd 2009 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
Any college student looking for a computer, definitely invest in a laptop or even a desktop/netbook combo as long as you have a portable computer.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 1:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 1:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
I have 7 years old Dell desktop and 4 years old ACER desktop, both run great. One runs Linux for a while, the other Win7 RC

I'm not saying MAC is worse or Windows is better, it's at least 2x more expensive. From what I see, it's more hip than features.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 1:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
I will admit though that I've seen equal amounts of macs die as windows laptops within my group of friends. Maybe it has to do with how many students treat their computers - people eat stuff like toast or greasy fast food over their laptop then cry when keyboard issues come up...]]>Jul 23rd 2009 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/> "my IBM laptop is at least 4 years old and still kicks ass, I never had a virus"

You're a guy, and you're reading Engadget. Something tells me that you're a little more tech-savvy than MOST students.

I have an 8 year old Gateway desktop that still runs. But I know how to maintain my computer. And I've also never had a virus.

I wouldn't let anyone I know and love get the Toshiba on that website. It looks like it would be a piece of shit... 3 hour battery life and all. I don't care if it's only $649]]>Jul 23rd 2009 1:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
It's not about being tech savvy. It's about common sense. Choosing not to click on the advertisement that popped up from nowhere that has nothing to do with what you're looking for, you know, things like that. Saying "No" instead of "Yes" when Windows asks "Do you want to trust software from this company?" if you don't know who the company is. It's simple really.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
If they are packing a PC, chances are they are working a part time job to fill in the blanks the student loans don't fill.

If they are flashing a Mac, it's an easy bet that Mommy and Daddy, and/or a trust fund is providing for smug little Suzie or Johnny's education. ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
I use a MacBook Pro and I'm in debt with both federal student loans as well as private loans to cover my education. Thanks for passing judgment though.

As for Macs being popular on campus, I disagree. I go to a small liberal arts/business/law school and it's mostly PCs on campus. I think I've seen one Mac so far and it was one of the $999 plastic models from two years ago.

@ bouldinjesse:
"Yes everyone, I know that they are really expensive.. BUT... it would cost the same IF you got a virus protection"

What? There's plenty of great free AV software out there for PCs. I use Avira Free on my PC and install it on friends' PCs at well - high detection rates and very light on the RAM usage.

As for Macs being expensive, they really aren't that bad. The specs are competitive and you have to take into account that the LED-backlit screens (although TN panels) look a lot better than a lot of other laptops. Automatically adjusting screen and keyboard backlights are nice as well, as is optical inputs and outputs for audio. Keep in mind that block aluminum and CNC milling are expensive as well (even in bulk/mass production) and make for a very solid, light, compact, and good looking system. Also, there's a premium for Mac OS X as well. Personally I find it worth it, they're solid computers and I find OS X to be a very intuitive operating system and prefer using it for programming and XHTML/CSS work.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/> "It's not about being tech savvy. It's about common sense"

If everyone had this "common sense" there wouldn't be such an outbreak of spyware and viruses.

I agree... it's the people's fault... but who is it happening to? LOTS OF PEOPLE!]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
Give me a break. As a student who worked all through college and had two jobs the last year of my undergrad program, I bought myself a Mac notebook. I paid for my own education in full, and never asked anyone for help. My old MacBook Pro cost $150 more then a comparable Dell at the time and it had a higher resolution screen and a slightly faster CPU. My wife (fiancee at the time), on the other hand, had a Dell Inspiron that her parents bought for $679 after an "instant savings" of about $200. Who do you think still has a working laptop from almost five years ago?

I'd actually wager that more students buy THEMSELVES MacBooks then Dells. Not that that is an indication of higher quality, but a free iPod and Printer, and $50-200 student discount goes a long way in convincing a student. By my calculations, the $250 they don't spend on an iPod they would probably buy anyway, $100 printer rebate, and $100 student discount makes the $999 MacBook.

Macs aren't the "trust-fund/mommy-daddy-bought-it" machines you're making them out to be. In realistic terms, especially at the beginning of a product cycle, Macs are not that much more expensive. Besides, it's all about what you see as a value. Personal perception.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/> "In the US, based on 2Q sales numbers, Apple only hold a 7.6% marketshare."

Great... but who was talking about that? Isn't it common knowledge... especially on gadget sites... that Apple has low market share? No surprises there! But thanks to your groundbreaking discovery... we now know that Apple can't break 10% market share. And you even posted a link!

Here's another link: "Apple tops PC customer satisfaction survey" http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10222213-37.html

And to bring it back to the topic at hand... do you think the $649 Toshiba advertised on the Back-to-School Best Buy site will score high customer satisfaction? Would you let anyone in your family buy that laptop?

Windows fanboys love to say that you pay 2x as much for a Mac laptop than a Windows laptop. But if the Macbook Pro starts at $1200... please show me a $600 Windows laptop that's not a complete pile of shit... something that YOU would actually be happy using.

Gateway was #2 in the survey I posted above... but I have a hard time believing that people will be satisfied with a $549 Gateway laptop that weighs 6.3 lbs. and is 1.5" thick. People buy that because it's cheap... not because it's a great machine.

Mac laptops cost more than other laptops... they *start* at $999... and $1199 for something decent. Apple will never be in the "inexpensive" laptop market. But the people who buy Mac laptops, like them... regardless of whether you can get higher specs with a Dell or HP. (although I can't find a non-Apple laptop with a LED glass screen, usable trackpad, and a body that's not made out of plastic)]]>Jul 23rd 2009 5:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
That's a strawman argument, where did i argue that a $649 laptop is better equipped than a Mac laptop that costs 2x more.

I took issue with the statement made by another poster along the lines of "Apples are more popular amongst college students", or something along those lines...which is pure and utter BS.

Secondly, I can configure COUNTLESS laptops from any one of the above vendors that would put to shame any Apple laptop of comparable price, both in performance and in most cases features.

And yes, I absolutely guarantee you that many PC laptops even exist at the ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 6:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/> "I can configure COUNTLESS laptops from any one of the above vendors that would put to shame any Apple laptop of comparable price, both in performance and in most cases features."

You're right. I will no longer recommend people get a Mac... even if they think they want one. The Microsoft ads are working. They would be much happier with a Dell laptop with better specs, including Blu-Ray and HDMI (even if they don't know what that is) because it's cheaper.

They can use Windows Live Photo Gallery instead of iPhoto... and Windows Movie Maker instead of iMovie. And they can take their laptop to Geek Squad to get it fixed instead of the Apple Store. There's absolutely nothing that a Mac laptop can do that a Windows laptop can't do cheaper.

(I hope you detected my sarcasm... I was laying it on pretty thick.)

Consumers don't care if one laptop can "put to shame" another laptop. Didn't the megahertz myth die a long time ago? All people want is a laptop that they can use... and I haven't met any regular person that is crazy about anything that Windows offers. Or that they care if they have 2GB vs 4GB of RAM. Or that they're worried if they will run out of hard drive space. They just use Windows because they've always used Windows... regardless of system specs. Most of the time they are bitching because their computers are slow due to spyware and stuff. But all my Mac friends use iPhoto, edit movies, back up with Time Machine, actually use their webcams, etc... and they are HAPPY with their computer. Doesn't that say something?

I know quite a few Mac users... but I've never heard any of them say "fuck this, I want a Dell."]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
You do know there's more professional media editing software for Windows, right? WLPG and WMM just give users the simplest options. Geek Squad is not the only option for PC users, as you could always take it to a small independent place and get it fixed pretty well without it costing a lot, if something wrong happens. Lines for support at the Apple store have gotten pretty long you know.

"But all my Mac friends use iPhoto, edit movies, back up with Time Machine, actually use their webcams, etc... and they are HAPPY with their computer. Doesn't that say something?

I know quite a few Mac users... but I've never heard any of them say "fuck this, I want a Dell.""

You act as if ALL PC's offer the same horrible experience, and that PC users are always unsatisfied. That's wrong. There are many decent and great PCs out there to choose from, and people generally don't have as much issues when they go for more top-of-the-line stuff, that aren't necessarily Macs. If you buy a cheap Dell or HP or whatever, with cruddy internals, then of course you're going to be frustrated. If you buy perhaps an XPS, or a Vaio, or Lenovo, or whatever, you'll have better quality and less frustration. It's that obvious, but people are suckered into the Apple ads and think Macs are the only quality computers out there, which is stupid thinking. I've had friends with PC and Mac problems alike. Macs can have issues, and you can dig up a ton of article and go through forums to see what I'm talking about. Seriously, if you're the type of person that connects PC to being equivalent to Dell, then you shouldn't be making comments.
]]>Jul 23rd 2009 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/> "You do know there's more professional media editing software for Windows, right?"

Yes. I know there is more professional media editing software for Windows. But we're not talking about professional media people... we're talking about Freshmen in college. And the type of stuff 18 year olds do with their computers.

I have a degree in Communications, and a minor in Computer Science, and I've been using computers for over 20 years. And Windows for 15 years. I'm pretty good with computers.

But I know people who still have pictures from *last* summer on their digital cameras because they don't know how to put pictures on their computers. It drives me crazy. I know it's hard to believe that people aren't as good as you and I with computers... but it's true. I see tons of photos uploaded by some of my friends to Facebook every day... but you gotta wonder how their pictures are organized, and if they know how to backup their collection and can move them to their next computer.

>> "You act as if ALL PC's offer the same horrible experience, and that PC users are always unsatisfied. That's wrong."

I'm not saying Windows is a horrible experience... far from it. I manage quite well. But my non-expert PC using friends aren't doing anything special with their computers. The majority just surf the web and little else.

Apple runs ads that say it's easy to organize their photos with iPhoto. And I've seen my Mac friends use it. And these are people that wouldn't have done the same thing with a Windows PC. If Windows PCs outrank Macs 10 to 1... I can't find 9 people who organize their photos efficiently on Windows to one of my Mac friends.

Microsoft's idea of a photo editing machine is a 17" HP for $699. Will Matt and Olivia be happy with it? It's got Windows Photo Gallery. It must be good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO7b5mACOA4

>> "If you buy a cheap Dell or HP or whatever, with cruddy internals, then of course you're going to be frustrated."

I never said anything about the quality of the computer of the possibility of things breaking. All computers *can* break. I'm only talking about *using* the computer.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
4. full virus protection

Yep... students asked for a bloated anti-virus "suite" full of performance robbing processes, which they will do nothing with after the 12 month trial runs out. It's just easier to close to window whenever it nags you to upgrade.

Seriously... is virus protection a big selling point these days?

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1. Windows 7 and Vista are immune to many of the old viruses still running rampant on the WWW.

2. Microsoft actually cares about viruses. They have created a free anti-spyware and anti-virus solution called Morrow. It's currently in beta. From my own personal tests and those of many other sites, Morrow consistently ranks in the top three.

3. To actually get a virus on Windows 7 or Vista that doesn't sneak through a Javascript flaw, Flash flaw, or user stupidity, and is actually due to poor programming from Microsoft is extremely rare.

3. Windows 7 has actually been able to run on a Pentium I machine at 264 Mhz with 128 MB ram of which only 96 was usable. Let's see Leopard do that.

4. If Apple ever gains substantial market share, you'll be pulling your hair out too.

5. A lot of people are nowhere near tech savy. I don't want to point fingers, but there's a reason why I chose to reply to you.

Now, Best Buy on the other hand is still !&#$!@#$.

This was in response to your June 23rd 2009 1:35 am comment.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
1. Windows 7 and Vista are immune to many of the old viruses still running rampant on the WWW.

2. Microsoft actually cares about viruses. They have created a free anti-spyware and anti-virus solution called Morrow. It's currently in beta. From my own personal tests and those of many other sites, Morrow consistently ranks in the top three.

3. To actually get a virus on Windows 7 or Vista that doesn't sneak through a Javascript flaw, Flash flaw, or user stupidity, and is actually due to poor programming from Microsoft is extremely rare.

4. Windows 7 has actually been able to run on a Pentium I machine at 264 Mhz with 128 MB ram of which only 96 was usable. Let's see Leopard do that.

5. If Apple ever gains substantial market share, you'll be pulling your hair out too.

6. A lot of people are nowhere near tech savy. I don't want to point fingers, but there's a reason why I chose to reply to you.

Now, Best Buy on the other hand is still !&#$!@#$.

This was in response to your June 23rd 2009 1:35 am comment.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 2:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/> "5. If Apple ever gains substantial market share, you'll be pulling your hair out too."

Dude, relax. I'm a Windows user. I just built a Quad core rig. And I'm patiently waiting for Windows 7.

All I was saying is that bundled anti-virus suites suck... and it's not something that Best Buy needs to brag about. Most people I know are running the 2006 version of whatever craptacular anti-virus software that came with their computer. Or, they do go out and buy the current version, and they complain that their brand new computer runs like shit. However, everyone I care about, I install Avast or Avira or whatever. It gets the job done.

So again... a 12 month "subscription" for anti-virus is a horrible selling point for these laptops. I know they *have* to install some sort of protection... but I think things like battery life are more important than the trial version of McAfee.

Oh, and if viruses aren't a big deal anymore... why is Best Buy touting "anti-virus" as one of the 6 key features of these laptops?]]>Jul 23rd 2009 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/Jul 23rd 2009 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
@Michael Scrip

Touting anti-virus as a "feature" is part of "Best" Buy's marketing strategy. The mother/daughter or father/son pair that goes to BB to buy a laptop sees the anti-virus offer as a money saver. Also, seems that HP/Dell have contracts with either McAfee or Norton. In my opinion, even the new version of Norton sucks.

Now, making Windows more resilient to viruses is Microsoft's way of saving techies around the world time and "money". One could say that Microsoft creates a new OS every cycle to cater to the techie crowd. Making the OS available to everyone else is just a nice gesture.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 3:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
u think best buy would load the laptops with torrent softwares? i dont think so! ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
Is this something Microsoft could do? Or would they run into legal issues...especially in Europe where they don't seem to be allowed to ship the OS with any components.

I for one think that having a piece of software that updates itself, runs scans itself, never expires, and is always free come pre-installed is an awesome idea. It's kind of like Microsoft protecting itself from the people, since the people can't seem to understand AV software.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
And holy God why would anyone want to use ANY build of Norton rather than Kaspersky? Ugh..]]>Jul 23rd 2009 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
Unfortunately for us the computer-illiterate always seem to have the money to shell out for half the machine at twice the price. A lot of people need Macs, and idiot-proofing gets expensive.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/"2. Microsoft actually cares about viruses"
And Apple cares about security too. Apple uses (amongst other techniques) signed software, digital sandboxing and file quarantine to keep Macs running Leopard secure.

"Windows 7 has actually been able to run on a Pentium I machine at 264 Mhz with 128 MB ram of which only 96 was usable. Let's see Leopard do that."
The 2D graphical compositing layer (Quartz - like Vista Aero, 7 years before Aero) (including transparency, drop shadows, exposé) runs on a 266MHz G3, without hardware acceleration (all software). Let's see Aero do that first. And yes, it was usable.

"5. If Apple ever gains substantial market share, you'll be pulling your hair out too."
Let's look at the iPhone, they have substantial market share of the “next wave” of computing. And how many know viruses, malware and threats are there for non jail broken devices? Oh that's right: none to my knowledge. And don't for a second think they couldn't or wouldn't bring these techniques across to the Mac if they needed to.

You are correct that if there's a small invading army, you only need a small wall. But Apple have shown they are quite capable of erecting a big wall if needed.

Low ranked because you only know about Windows and don't know anything about the Mac yet feel happy to comment and spout garbage and mis-information. This added nothing to the Windows / Mac security debate.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/best-buy-gears-up-for-back-to-school-crowded-with-next-class-bra/
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