http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Apple: 1 Palm: 1

the game goes to extra time...]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Palm can easily co-ordinate efforts with San Francisco-based Songbird team and fix the last few issues/features on their app before it can compete with iTunes. Don't forget that it took Apple 10 years to bring iTunes where it is today, usually that's what it takes to mature complex software. So your comment just shows the ignorance on software development and its costs.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Even though itunes DOES suck, it's still widely used. Which makes more sense? Spending money developing a new piece of software that users will have to install...or saving money and making the phone compatible with a piece of software that most users probably already have. Option 2 for me. I'd really hate to have to install an additional piece of software considering I've already got the Zune software (which I prefer) and itunes (for my iphone) on my pc.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Makes me want a Pre even more now.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/"I wouldn't want to buy a phone that syncs with iTunes using a hacky solution, but still this is good for Apple, so I guess I can't complain too much"
Dude, you aren't old enough to buy 2 phones, let alone discuss it here. You love Apple good, some of us have multiple phones and would like to simplify our lifes. After u get out of high school you'll see. ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Everyone's annoyance with you has more to do with your arrogant and confused diatribes on every single engadget pre/iPhone commentary. Stop rambling on incessantly like you're trying to make some sort of illusory point that hasn't already been pointed out either by someone else or in TFA. It's annoying as hell merely to see your long monologues.

And seriously, what the hell is with entering another few carriage returns after you post? It's annoying.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
It's people like you that reaffirm why abortion should never be made illegal.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
I guess that's why I have an iPhone isn't it? I guess that's why I'm paradoxically also a Palm Pre fan? You know, because you can't have the industry's gold standard phone and still champion for the long-time-player-turned-underdog, right? /sarcasm No, that part is true, so get a clue before you start cramming words, preconceived notions and stereotypes into people's heads.

iTunes is popular, right? Palm wants to make syncing music a painless procedure for *normal* people who haven't heard of Songbird or WinAMP or [insert favorite media player here]. Seems like a pretty logical thing for one of the chief designers/engineer of the original iPod's success to want iTunes syncing as a part of WebOS to leverage Apple's success. Better yet, since they have a ton of the old iPod engineering staff that made this stuff work, they probably are going to be pretty good at this back and forth for a long while, all while making Apple look rather stupid for playing whack-a-mole. There, end of story.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
So the question is...will Apple sue?

Now, don't get me wrong, I get that Apple infringes on some of Palm's patents, but that has little to do with the fact that Palm is actually leeching onto Apple's software. The legal system isn't always just, it often bends in the way of the heaviest bank account. Can Apple force Palm to stop and walk away unharmed in court? Do they even want to?

Clearly, something bigger is going to happen then fighting back and forth every week...]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Drop dead Paul. Please!]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
@Paul

Most everyone is biased. I, as a gamer, am biased towards my DS, Xbox 360 and iPod Touch games. Other poster's Apple Hate may cloud there judgment. But your apple love may cloud your judgment as well.

Just sayin']]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
What Palm is doing is pretty sleezy even if it is legal (which it might not be).

As Paul tried to point out before all the knee jerk reactionary down commenting, there is a perfectly open way to sync with iTunes managed media content, the xml file Apple uses, and that other software also can use. If Palm spent time making their own syncing software, they wouldn't look like such a half-baked company.

Frankly its really dissapointing to me, I loved my palm message pad back in the day and I really wanted a competitor to the iPhone to keep Apple on their toes. It wasn't going to be Android, that much was clear, so Palm was the best shot. But cheap tricks like this make me skeptical of their ability to do seriour inovation, not to mention the lackluster SDK and the shoddy hardware quality.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Please shut the Fuck up,

Signed, everyone...
Plus me.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Actually No, Paul. You were gone for a few days I believe, and the Apple hate around here went down during that time. You don't piss on any flames and you definitely don't live in a world reality. Your little land of make believe just got worse thanks to the dude who informed you that you own the comments. After all of your comments I've read I've noticed trends, and you clearly are on here as an attention seeker.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Please kindly shut the fuck up.

Sincerely,

The internet]]>Jul 23rd 2009 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Barky, you don't have a clue. Apple isn't stopping Palm from writing a program that allows the pre to sync on a Mac. There are allready companies that do this. In fact Apple provides an easily readable xml file that shows the ENTIRE iTunes library including playlists for apps to be built which can sync to other devices!

Palm isn't the hero here, they are sleazy and lazy. Its pretty unprofessional to offer your customers a feature that is a hack. They should be spending their tiem and money to build their own App. Instead we have to listen to know-nothings like you harp about how Apple is big and mean for not doing Palms job for them? Seriously? I don't know if Steve Jobs ran over your puppy or something, but you should try and stop drinking the Apple-hatorade man.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Keep being 2 legit 2 quit. ]]>Jul 23rd 2009 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 10:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
For the guy who said Paul owns the comments: I can tell you right now how, he never shuts up. Even when people stopped responding to him he started talking back and forth to himself. In fact, he's really not too much different than Jubei, although his arguments are slightly more rational(not saying a lot).

There are a few of the more hardcore Apple fans here that I respect(UnixEngineer and Skeetz(spelling?) Come to mind) but Paul isn't one of them.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
I think I saw you in this video, pretty sure you are the 1:38 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gzq-QEt0s

]]>Jul 23rd 2009 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
Apple probably never intentionally broke the Palm sync ability. It probably just happened as a matter of course. If Apple didn't actually want Palm to sync with iTunes, they'd probably just tell Palm to create their own software and be done with it.

I think some bloggers just made up the Apple/Palm hate theory to stir up trouble. Hardly anyone really cares whether the Pre syncs with iTunes are not.]]>Jul 23rd 2009 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/...Please tell me I just missed your sarcasm. Apple blatantly stated in stated in their update information that it "fixes" the Pre's ability to sync with iTunes.]]>Jul 24th 2009 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
iPhone priorities in order:
1.) Music (media) player
2.) Toy (Mine plays games and can make fart sounds in 8 different languages).
3.) Phone (SMS, voicemail, (not) MMS, etc.)
4.) PDA/productivity (last cause you can only do 1 thing at a time, Apple's commercials position it as a game platform first, etc.)

Pre priorities in order:
1.)PDA/productivity (multitasking, says 'Palm' on it.)
2.)Phone
3.)Music (media) player
4.)Toy (although this may rise with the SDK release)]]>Jul 24th 2009 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 24th 2009 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/compared to 1.6]]>Jul 23rd 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 24th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/
PALM 2.0

This is so much more entertaining that the Treo-headlined days.
]]>Jul 23rd 2009 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/Jul 23rd 2009 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/palm-webos-1-1-now-available-fixes-itunes-sync/The stock ones are about average, but you can use mp3's as ringers. With the right software you can make them as loud as you want. (Or find loud ones online)]]>Jul 23rd 2009 9:19PM