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Or is the "whats playing" screen look strangely like window media center, and the top bar and play controls looks like something from the ipod touch, and I detect a hint of samsung ui on the bottom navigation bar...]]>Jul 27th 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 27th 2009 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
They don't have to use the EXACT same styling as the devices I mentioned, sure I agree they could get away with the top bar since it fairly generic... But you have to admit they got "inspiration" from the other sources when they made the other parts.]]>Jul 27th 2009 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/]]>Jul 28th 2009 2:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 27th 2009 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
Sonos seems to be counting on the same market that Mercedes now does: those who firmly believe that something is better simply because it costs more, despite all the evidence to the contrary.]]>Jul 28th 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 27th 2009 10:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 27th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 27th 2009 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 27th 2009 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
But the mention at the end makes it sound like a ZoneBridge is necessary for wireless operation now. Am I reading it wrong, or has this changed? Thanks.]]>Jul 27th 2009 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
It's amazing all the negative posts here. It's obvious these people have never used a Sonos system. John is correct, Sonos blows away systems costing many times more and if you're installing into an existing dwelling you don't have to wire all the rooms together to get them to sync. Sonos just works. It works well and it works without hassle. It's high-end and high-end costs money.

My clients would NEVER be bothered with Airport Express devices, media extenders etc and all the configuring and inconvenience that goes along with those "systems". So for those who have to complain about price, just use your iTunes and Airport gadgets and stop crying. LOL, Apple won't even give you the option of a music service.]]>Jul 28th 2009 5:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 30th 2009 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
For $1100, you can buy an Airport Express, and FIVE iPod Touches.

It's a weak argument to say, "well, if you buy the iPod touch, you're going to always be in other apps, and the 12 seconds to load the Sonos app is going to make you hate it".

UM, HELLO? You can basically buy TWO iPod Touches for the price of ONE Sonos Controller. It's absolutely remarkable that you consider the extra ability and versatility of the iPod Touch to be a negative thing.


Other than that, if you ARE to leave the Sonos app loaded on the iPod touch, you say the functionality is identical. Unbelievable.

In the end, if you "have more money than time", there's STILL no logical reason why you wouldn't be better off with another iPod touch. Jesus, how much did Sonos pay you to write this bullshit?
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However, the mental weight of having to remember to "pocket" this thing, carry it around, and have to charge it every single day breaks the deal for me. Oh, yeah, and did I mention the fact that I don't have enough money to justify it? :)]]>Jul 28th 2009 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
The only complaint any Sonos owner really has with it, is the high entry cost, After they realize there is NOTHING simpler/better to stream music around their house, there are rarely regrets. The only thing ever to come close to matching all that Sonos offers is the Logitech Duet. But that system still requires you to run a media server or some proprietary web app.

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@engadget, I guess you have to follow the rules, but how could you sit on this for a week and not post at least a single shot! Nice review and good coverage. You really can't understate the value of the subscription services. I'd argue that when your CR100 battery dies it's really only a $250 swing for the CR200, plus someone will buy your CR100 on ebay for 75-100 as well. So making the upgrade is probably a foregone conclusion at some point. The iPod app is great but takes forever as mentioned in this review.]]>Jul 28th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
If the display was a bit prettier I'd be happy to fork out, but I love nice-looking album art and think it deserves a larger section of the screen than it's been allocated here, so I'll stick with my iPhone again.]]>Jul 28th 2009 4:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Talk about gouging..]]>Jul 28th 2009 4:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
For example, I have a SqueezeBox and instead of spending hundreds on their controller bought an iPod Touch + iPeng App ($10). Now I have a kick ass controller for the SB plus a pretty cool device for around the house. I also have the XMBC Remote app for the Touch so two killer apps controlling all my media needs in one little sexy device.

The Touch/Phone is a great developer platform for things like this. ]]>Jul 28th 2009 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
For those that knock the system, you clearly haven't used it. The advice I have is save your money on work-arounds and just buy it the first time. I used the squeezebox before and other streamers but they simple don't compare. Having self powered units where needed and bridges hooked to the HT or stereo where available just works. The first time you host a party and link all the zones you can't help but have a huge smile on your face.]]>Jul 28th 2009 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/That being said, I chose the iPhone and a WiFi extender, which still came out cheaper.

What I really want, though, is a wall-mount unit, right next to my thermostat. ]]>Jul 28th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
I really want the new controller. The sonos system is lie an iPod. You never realize how much you want it until you have it and lose it. I have had a system since late 2005 and never had a single problem. I can get all the free music I want off of Deezer. Control it from anywhere and I used to use it to extend my network and connect the xbox to the internet.]]>Jul 29th 2009 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
BTW the Squeezebox supports up to 24bit 48kHz files on their DAC, and the Transporter will do 24bit 96kHz.]]>Jul 28th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
I fail to see where 24bit audio comes into this. iTunes is the biggest digital music store in the world, it doesn't sell it. I can't name one mainstream music store that does. CD audio, which after all is what consumers buy, is 16-bit and fully supported by Sonos. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that even audio engineers couldn't hear the difference between kit with quality at this level. You need an oscilloscope to see any differences...the key point being that the consumer can't hear any differences you may claim exists.

Sonos offers considerably more than Squeezebox. It doesn't need a server running 24x7 for locally hosted music, it supports up to 32 linked zones playing the same music source, whether that is ripped CDs or online services like Napster, Rhapsody, Spotify etc. There's even a line-in on each device so you can hear the commentary from the football game that's playing in the Den whilst you pop for another beer.

To top it all, Sonos resellers are now selling the TWO best audio controllers on the market...the 3rd one is also free on the iTunes store - they call it "Sonos Controller for iPhone".

@avee - Yes, enchilda is the Squeezebox PR rep.

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The real problem, and to me severe one, is the internal resampling of all music files to 44.1 kHz when using the internal DAC and the analog outs.

Also I don't work for Logitech or Squeezebox, and I've never been in PR.]]>Jul 30th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
How many of your precious KHz can be found on a standard audio CD? Oh yes, 44.1KHz...

So if you rip from an audio CD, in lossless quality, how much resampling takes place? None.

Beginning to realise why you don't work for Logitech any more.]]>Jul 30th 2009 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/I have my PC hooked up to my home theater system as I use media center for most of my A/V entertainment. With Sonos not allowing my PC to play content directly, I can only play music in other zones around my home and not in my living room unless I by another Zone ($$$$$) and then I have to switch inputs on my receiver. This may not sound too much of a problem, but as I use my PC for all my other entertainment I have been able to hide my receiver away as I never need to change the source input. Sonos system means I have to and buy that extra zone. It really bothers me as my computer is perfectly capable of playing the music stored upon it.
]]>Jul 28th 2009 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Jul 28th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/Aren't you the Squeezebox PR-Guy? So tell us, do you think the Duet remote or anything in the pipeline at Squeeze is better than the CR200? Or was the 16-bit flame the best you could come up with? :p]]>Jul 29th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
Sonos's own iPhone app makes more sense than this product does, as do any of the iPhone apps for Squeezebox.

And the 44.1kHz on the zoneplayers is not a flame, check the spec on Sono's own site. "Native support" for 44.1kHz and "Additional support" for everything else means all files are getting resampled to 44.1kHz internally if you're making use of the DAC. ]]>Jul 30th 2009 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/
that feature is available in other systems costing around the same. Other systems even let you open the front door and look at the front camera via the remote using ethernet wiring.]]>Jul 30th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/sonos-cr200-review/What system are you referring to exactly, and how much do you think Sonos costs (it costs 499 per room, and 349 per controller). The beauty of Sonos is that it can interface wirelessly, you can buy and install it yourself, without the help of a custom audio guy. Yet it still does more than other whole-house systems. Most notably completely independent operation of up to 32 zones.]]>Jul 31st 2009 3:22PM