http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Best reply I've seen in the couple years I've been reading Engadget.]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
I think that the only situations that warrant tazer use are stand offs with subjects clearly holding potentially deadly melee weapons that could inflict serious hard on police if they try to subdue by hand. There's too many factors that could lead to the death of someone that a tazer is used upon.]]>Jul 27th 2009 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
So we should classify them as non-lethal?]]>Jul 27th 2009 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
I bet most of you hippies (sissyfus) are fans of Boondock saints but you hate guns, war and police. You dont understand PEOPLE WANT TO HURT YOU!!! Until you realize that you will always be the victim. I have seen kids in school fight each other and have to go to the hospital because of concussions, broken bones and even ruptured kidneys- all of these could have been fatal if not treated in time yet guns/tasers are dangerous? you people live in the bubble of your moms basement; get out in the world and live!!!]]>Jul 27th 2009 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Example

There is a drunk man at a parade, he is in a crowd of people trying to start a fight- a police officer tells him to calm down or leave the parade. The drunk man then raises his voice and turns to the crowd shouting how he has freedom of speech and he is aloud to tell whoever he wants whatever he wants. The police seeing the man growing more and more agitated and will soon become overly aggressive and will soon hurt someone in the crowd, the officer or himself. The officer then pulls out his taser and tells the man to calm down or he will be tased; the man now even more upset takes a step towards the officer, the crowd steps back waiting for the officer to react, and the officer pulls the trigger shocking the belligerent man, slaps some cuffs on him and then, BAM, the situation is dissolved the crowd can go back to its celebration, the officer is safe and filling out a handful of paperwork explaining why he used his taser, the man is calming down in the back of a police car.]]>Jul 27th 2009 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Actually I'm a well-educated, philosophically radical, agnostic, libertarian gun owner who believes in the constitution, second amendment rights, and all of the other rights afforded me as a citizen of my country. And I'd be okay if everyone in my neighborhood owned guns too, because they'd get to help themselves out a hell of a lot quicker than the police ever could.

But go on calling 90% of people "hippies," while you relax in "Real America" and lick Sean Hannity's ballsack for blathering on about good and evil. ]]>Jul 27th 2009 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
"If you are resisting arrest you forfeit your right not to be tazered. It's that simple.

Example........."

nice little story, but you are being sarcastic right? I can't tell whether you are joking or not...
A drunken man being boisterous, rude and offensive even, is in no way justification to tazer him. If he has no weapon he is not a lethal threat to anyone. A Tazer should really only be used in a similar situation that you would use a gun. Would you shoot a man with a gun for shouting?

If a policeman cannot subdue a drunk man without using a gun or a tazer, then he is not much of a policeman. Isn't that the reason they have night sticks?

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There is nothing you can do that forfiets your fundamental human rights, even convicted criminals and prisoners of war maintain basic human rights. Police are required to use a proportional response to a threat, so physical force can only be used to subdue a physically violent person. A taser is supposed to be an alternative to a gun, a last option before lethal force to subdue a violent person, sadly what the police are actually doing is using it as an obeidience tool to beat people into line when they don't jump fast enough at a command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmByfTKKUV4

Here's a guy who is fully compliant at all times and never threatening actually being told to lie down so he can be tasered

He even does so, displaying absolute compliance and is still tasered!. That's not a professional police officer, that's just a vindictive idiot who can't wait to use his new "toy"]]>Jul 28th 2009 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Police brutality makes the news because--guess what--it IS news. It's not common. The innocent have nothing to fear. If you don't want to be tased stop breaking the law. If you're not breaking the law then this shouldn't matter to you at all.]]>Jul 28th 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/]]>Jul 28th 2009 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
I guess I wouldn't know about since I hate freedom and all that jazz.]]>Jul 29th 2009 6:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Btw: I've been tased and I didn't wet myself.]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
I'm so proud of you! Not wetting your pants while being tased is remarkably difficult eh? Perhaps we should all try to understand what being tased feels like as you have.]]>Jul 27th 2009 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Your sarcasm is noted. You may also notice that this sub-thread was about wetting onesself when being tased. It happens, especially to drunks with full bladders. Yes, there is a humorous side to it, but it's a legitimate issue.

"Perhaps we should all try to understand what being tased feels like as you have."

If it's a topic that you're passionate about, I would recommend you go through it. Make sure you pee first.]]>Jul 28th 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
too late. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=taser]]>Jul 27th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 28th 2009 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
- Texas resident]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Can I ask why you assume that any given situation only has two outcomes: Gun or Taser? What happened to using self defense skills to disable your opponent with minimal harm to both. All I ask is that if we were to adopt the use of Tasers then we should treat it like a gun and ONLY use it as a last resort. Using a taser against someone who is UNARMED is unethical and dubious. If the suspect has a gun or a knife then yes a police officer should have the option to use the taser. Otherwise it is excessive.]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
@ Chip: If you remove the cartridge the arc still exists across the two terminals, and can be used as a traditional stun "gun." You're right about the missing concern. That's the biggest flaw about the Taser. Until we get star trek style phasers, it will also continue to be a concern. Plus, you can't always use a firearm in situations where a Taser might be appropriate.

Of course, most people believe they are being somehow morally superior by being opposed to Tasers and screaming "OMG POH-LEESE OPPRESHUNS!!1111oneoneon" without:

1) Ever having been actually oppressed by the police.
2) Somehow not realizing that it's far, far worse to be tackled by multiple policeman and/or hit with an ASP baton or even OC spray. Getting tased is a far better alternative than any of those, both for you and the officer. ]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
Phil, that's exactly the point. Many departments use the Taser as an alternative to shooting you. In fact, many departments require lethal cover (another officer with gun drawn) before the taser is deployed.

Matt, yes there is a risk. In fact, they discourage deployment while spraying mace. The mace itself isn't the issue, but the propellant is. Once done spraying, Taser away.]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/
It is intended exactly for what you said - for taking down possibly unarmed people who are a danger to themselves, others, and/or a LEO. Example: an angry, most likely unarmed and combative drunk guy.

Scenario 1: Tackle and hit drunk guy, cut and bruised cops, and broken bones and bruises on drunk guy. Lots of assault charges on the guy.

Scenario 2: Drunk dude gets Tasered. Everyone goes home uninjured. Drunk guy gets drunk and disorderly charges, and gets to walk out later on without injuries that would've had to have been treated with taxpayer dollars.]]>Jul 27th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/Jul 27th 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/taser-x3-triple-shot-stunner-arrives-subdues-population/]]>Jul 27th 2009 7:06PM