http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/ Engadget Comments for PS3 manufacturing costs down 70 percent? Strange, it doesn't feel that way http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
If the rest of the companies jumped off a bridge....

But seriously. Sony's been selling PS3's at a loss, presumably in anticipation of lowered manufacturing costs down the line. I don't blame 'em although a modest price cut would probably raise demand.]]>Jul 31st 2009 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
and yeah, how the hell did apple get dragged into this.]]>Jul 31st 2009 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
I expect the PS3 "Slim" to be sold for 299$ at October]]>Jul 31st 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Aug 1st 2009 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
Ninetndo's been making money on every console shipped, I suspect their manufacturing costs have dropped about the same.... So now they are making even more profit, another 70% more?. The big N could be selling for $100]]>Aug 1st 2009 7:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Aug 2nd 2009 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
the main reason i was looking at a ps3 over an xbox is because of blu-ray... but nowadays:

a used 60gb xbox can be had for $150 + $150 blu-ray player = $300

and on top of that you'll get the VASTLY superior xbox live network]]>Jul 31st 2009 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
I personally don't think much of the PS3 media playback support. I have a PS3, and I would like it to see SMB shares......... Oh, and mkv would be nice............

Fish]]>Jul 31st 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
using windows 7 to stream, i was able to play pretty much everything in my shared folders, with some exceptions on some less common encodings..]]>Jul 31st 2009 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Even better use PS3 Media Server which is great (transcodes in realtime from mkv), but, what would be nice would be native playback of mkvs and SMB support.]]>Jul 31st 2009 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
I'm currently using this program my friend gave me called XenonMKV converter. How does that stack up against the rest; is MKV2VOB better? That name makes it sound like its spits out VOB files, does xbox even play those. or was that for PS3? I dragged some VOB stuff over to my xbox's external and it didn't seem to pick it up.

Is there any good file conversion stuff that are multithreaded or use GPU's? It'd be nice to put these damned quad cores and beefy video cards that many people are getting access to to work. Tried ATI AVIVO for some video conversion, which was quite speedy but ridiculously lacking in options/features/customizations (at least when I used it last).

]]>Aug 1st 2009 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/What have you been smoking?]]>Aug 1st 2009 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
so is an old ass computer from 10 years ago, which costs $0, just dust it off. oh or how about an xbox 360 which is $200 and is also a media center extender. you could get 2 xbox 360s instead of one ps3. buying a ps3 for watching movies is just dumb especially in this economy. furthermore, its made by sony, a non american company. support usa.]]>Aug 3rd 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/200-300 dollars for a blu ray ( profile 2.0, not a crappy no-name problematic one that can't play new discs/doesn't have internet support ). It should also have built in wifi since that's a pain to hook it up to ethernet.
100-200 for a streamer.
200 for 360
75 for wifi module.

It's a very complete system. Here's why I like it the most: I can remux any downloaded mkv with tsmuxer to a .m2ts file which can be played on the ps3. Not only can it be played, it takes 3 minutes max ( on an old single core ) and has 0 loss of quality. Not only that, you can copy the movie onto the ps3's built in hard drive. That to me is fantastic.

If they do drop the price to 300 with a slim model I fear it will be of lower quality. That's the main thing I dislike about the ps3. While the newer models are quieter, they lose SACD/DVD audio support and PS2 support. That's to cut costs I suppose, but it's still a shame. I think the new ps3 will have a cheaper matte finish and may have some things removed from it.

Note: I like my 360 as well, but saying a 150 dollar blu ray player and a 150 dollar used 360 ( have fun with the RROD ) is just like the ps3 is silly. I got the RROD and got an instant exchange at costco, I'd hate to have to ship it off and pay 150 dollars like you have to if you buy used.
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how is sonys gaming network?

actually, its quite good. anyone that says PSN lags anymore than XBL is using their neighbors router with a 5% connection, or is making it up to bash the PS3. the only "steal" thats going on is micrsoft taking your $5 a month.

oh and you get what you pay for? maybe thats why the ps3 is $399 and the 360 is $199.]]>Aug 1st 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Aug 2nd 2009 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
Must just got lucky.]]>Jul 31st 2009 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
with a list price of $299, we're looking at potential prices of $200-250 which is VERY attractive.]]>Jul 31st 2009 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Aug 13th 2009 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
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Yes we heard this before. And the answer is not everyone needs that stuff!
More than half the people that buy these console don't have an hdtv.
So what does than mean.
1 lack of money.
2 Not into the latest technology
3 Saving for better things maybe!

The same people that have the NON HD set probably don't have a wifi lan!

So you can throw the charging system at me!
What if the batteries die on the controller. On and xbox 360 you can swap for some energizers. But you would rather be 3 feet from your ps3 while it charges with that small cable!]]>Jul 31st 2009 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Aug 1st 2009 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Jul 31st 2009 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/
PSN sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. I cannot repeat this enough times. THIS is the thing that is killing Sony beyond anything else (though the high price of entry hurts too).

But I'm not just gonna randomly complain, here are some (but not all) of the reasons why PSN blows:

- Poor integration into play. Friend sends me a message while I'm playing a game. On Xbox I hit the Xbox button, it brings up the text of the message immediately. Another press of the button dismisses it. On PS3? Hit the PS3 button, surf on over to the Friends tab, scroll down to Messages, select Inbox, and then scroll to the meesage I want to read and THEN hit X to read it. WTF? SERIOUSLY?

- ZERO support for parties, ZERO out-of-game support for invites. Say I'm playing Halo. A friend comes online and invites me to join a GoW match. Notification pops onto screen, I hit my Xbox button and accept. Boom, swap a disc and I'm in the game. Easy peasy. On PS3? I get a message in my Inbox: "YOU HAVE BEEN INVITED, START X GAME!". I start the game, but instead of asking me to join this match I'm being invited to, the game is blissfully unaware that anything has happened. I go into "play with friends" (game specific, which makes it all very confusing) and HOPE the matchmaking system works and doesn't do something dumb like put me on opposite teams with my friend (*COUGH*Battlefield1943).

- On the other hand, the PSN store UI is a lot better than the Xbox Live purchasing UI. Kudos to Sony on this one. If only there was anything worthwhile on the PSN store...

Oh, and as good as Resistance was, it has nothing on the hype and popularity around Halo. Comparing the two simply doesn't fly.]]>Jul 31st 2009 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-percent-strange-it-doesnt-fee/Aug 1st 2009 9:59AM