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The problem with our government and it's people lies in that statement right there... I'll bet you support Obama-care too?]]>Aug 5th 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
I hope you get a pre-existing condition.

STFU and keep paying your premiums, sheep.]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/With all that money they could have made a Nation car manufacture]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
if they make so much money why are all of them on verge of collapse? Oh ya, union workers!

the average american makes ~$40,000 yet the average GM union worker makes$60,000 (after OT)

how can you produce a car meant for the average person when you average employee makes 1.5x your target market?

you dumb POS]]>Aug 5th 2009 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
have fun getting heart care over 59, Sheep.]]>Aug 5th 2009 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Have fun spouting unverified half-truths, sheep.

You probably think Obama doesn't have a birth certificate, either.]]>Aug 5th 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Where did you get that stat line....Rush Limbaugh? ]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.salarylist.com/all-real-jobs-salary-at-general-motors-corp.htm


^ right here is where I received my info

Rush Limbaugh is a pill popper, I'm more of a Michael Savage/ Glen Beck kind of guy

and your more of Al Gore a$$ sucker that is to busy killing babies and giving MY money away to realize OUR country will be no more powerful than france or england]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Here, it's just easier and less prone to fanaticism if you read it yourself. This IS YOUR life we are talking about:
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf]]>Aug 5th 2009 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
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You're a complete mess if you follow that psycho, Glen Beck. I'm not even going to start with you.

@ Andir3.0

Gee, thanks for that wall of text that has nothing to do with any thought process you may have had in posting this propaganda... Have YOU read the 1,018 page bill? Because it's my job to read it.

Let's highlight a couple of these embarrassing lies for the public, shall we?

"Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!"

First of all, the HB section in question starts on page 21.

"(2) REPORTS.—Not later than 18 months after
the date of the enactment of this Act, the Commissioner
shall submit to Congress and the applicable
agencies a report on the study conducted under
paragraph (1)."

That's not an audit... That is a survey of how much the employer-insured subsidies should cost based in the current private insurance market, you fear-mongering idiot! It's no different than what you do NOW! Shopping for the right insurance for your family... Oh wait, you can't do that!

Private insurance without an employer's subsidy is IMPOSSIBLE TO PAY FOR ON YOUR OWN!

Anyway, next one:

"Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get."

Well, duh. Obama has been discussing this in his speeches; a committee headed by the surgeon general – who's going to figure out what benefits will get paid for and what won't. Hmmm, what does that sound like?

AETNA decided that my brother's pre-existing heart condition wouldn't be covered? I can't even appeal that! With this program, we can debate about what will be covered and what will not be covered!

To be honest, since all pre-existing conditions will be covered, the debatable stuff is probably plastic surgeries and abortions (which I think the Dems should stop being pussies about and just say it's going to be covered because it's a woman's right to choose, but whatever...)

Anyway, I'm done for tonight. If you want more, you know where to find me.
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You really believe that? I just got a quote for myself...It's between $31.54 and $109 a month depending on my deductibles/coinsurance/office visit costs. That's more than affordable considering I spend more than that on Cable each month. Since I'm a responsible adult and put money back for emergencies, I can choose the one with a $5k deductible (and even if I wasn't... I'm sure family would help me) and this has a $35 copay for office visits. If I really cared, I could get top class no pay awesome coverage for that $100/month mark. Most people probably pay more than that at the mall in a single day.

The fact of the matter is that I don't need Health insurance at my point in life and I choose to accept the standard coverage that my work offers me in case. I can afford an annual checkup out of my pocket without a problem (also, because I put money back instead of buying some overpriced car or TV.)

I don't see why I should have to pay for your inability to plan your life.]]>Aug 5th 2009 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/

There may be problems with some people covering it, but this plan IS NOT the way to fix it. Most of the expense and cost is because of government programs and requirements as it is. The government inflated the overhead of Healthcare and now they are trying to blame the heavy expenses on the Insurance companies? Also, don't call me a fear monger, Obama is doing well enough on his own. There are several videos of his speeches out there that can prove that.

Another note. If costs are so bad and the HC system is so corrupt, then why is our Cancer survival rate so much better than the rest of the world? Why can I go to Wal-Mart and get $4 prescriptions?

Yeah, we are really hurting. /rolleyes]]>Aug 5th 2009 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 6th 2009 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 6th 2009 1:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 6th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
“The Democrat war on dissent reached a peak this week when the White House posted a blog entry urging the president’s followers to find people who criticize the president, even “in casual conversation,” and forward the information to flag@whitehouse.gov. That is a brazen attempt to bully people into silence by leading them to believe any statements critical of the president will land them on the new version of the ‘White House enemies list.’”

Welcome to the USSA.]]>Aug 6th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
I'm sure you think your plan is full-proof, but just wait until you lose your job, or your employer finds out what a douche you are and decides to fire you.

This is about the future of the healthcare system, and unbeknownst to you, is going the way of the stock market.

I hate idiots like you that say, "Oh, it's not my problem! I'm living in my little picket-fenced house, and everything's a-okay!" BUT, when everything falls through in a recession, you're THE FIRST to blame everyone but yourselves.

I hope you at least listen to this: the health care system is going to crash, and if you're not a part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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Engadget article:(hell I did not even have to leave engadget to find the articles about this stuff)
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/28/25-billion-in-electric-vehicle-loans-still-waiting-for-perfect/

oh wait another engadget article and go like 6 billion goes to Ford.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/23/tesla-ford-nissan-all-receive-electric-car-development-loans-f/

I am so assamed I voted for these jokers. ]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Besides, this still seems marginally better than giving away $4000 rebates for fuel-efficient vehicles that aren't really all that efficient. Sure do hope they stick to their word in not taxing the mid-class more, though I'm not counting on it.]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Last Sunday, some Obama flunkies, when asked, said they didnt rule out hiking taxes to pay for Obamacare.

Better buy those gadgets real quick, before Obama runs the national debt card through the cash register again.]]>Aug 5th 2009 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
well, at least those morons figured out how to use all three brain cells to come up with that. :)]]>Aug 5th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/16 Billion to fight Poverty (which in most cases they are responsible for)
700 BILLION TO DEFENSE!!!!

AWESOME!! AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!]]>Aug 5th 2009 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/23/the-government-comes-through-for-tesla-with-a-465-million-loan-for-its-electric-sedan/]]>Aug 5th 2009 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
im sure tesla would ask for more if they were a greedy conglomerate like GM]]>Aug 5th 2009 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 6th 2009 1:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Isn't this LESS than the amount that was going to the F-22 that the democrats killed? And that WAS producing something usable and jobs at the same time? Can't we vote the democrats out yet?!?]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Holy freaking crap you repubs are so whacked out on i dont know what kind of goofballs. Im sure your GOB's are writing a new script for arguing this right now.]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/Aug 5th 2009 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/
Ah, no.

The F-22 isn't as versatile in equipment sense, but it is much more maneuverable and quicker than the F-35. In a war where our enemy was that of Germany in WW2, if we only had F-16s and F-35s we would be destroyed by the Superior craft. On top of that, let's not forget that the F-22 and the F-35 aren't even made for the same missions.]]>Aug 5th 2009 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/vice-president-biden-announces-2-4-billion-in-battery-related-g/i dont think you see the potential of the F-35. When in service it will become the 2nd best air to air fighter and the world's best bomber. I want to also add the F-22 is a big waste of money when the competition is not there. Even Donald H. Rumsfeld felt this way > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462700/posts.

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