http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/ Engadget Comments for Welsh nab their first native-tongued phone and iPhone app in one month's time -- Cymru am byth! http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/This Welsh town actually exists and its name translates as "The church of St. Mary in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid whirlpool by St. Tysilio's of the red cave".
http://llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.com/]]>Aug 5th 2009 6:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/The name means something like - St Marys church in the hollow of hazel near the rapid whirlpool and church of St Tysilio of red cave
Wales is a beautiful place. ]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 4:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 5:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Sep 16th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Welsh?]]>Aug 5th 2009 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Check this out for some humour:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7702913.stm]]>Aug 5th 2009 4:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Welsh = Sounds funny, LOOKS funny written down.]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
It's like here in North America. Some shallow minded Americans think the language they speak is called "American", while in fact it's English.]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Irish Gaelic and Scottish Gaelic are related languages in the Gaelic group.
Both groups are part of the Celtic language family.

It's a little like Portuguese & Spanish vs French.

Language is a big part of culture and most people want to preserve their culture. this is particularly hard for minority languages like the Celtic group. There are several thousand languages spoken across the world but some go extinct every year.]]>Aug 5th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Yes its true we can all speak English (mostly), but that doesn't mean we wouldn't prefer to use a mobile in our native tongue. To be honest, the main bugbear for Welsh mobile users is the lack of a Welsh T9 support, though the English suggestions for Welsh words are always a source of mirth. Since most of my texts are in Welsh, I just have to switch T9 off.]]>Aug 5th 2009 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.channelflip.com/2009/06/25/david-mitchell%E2%80%99s-soapbox-gaelic/

If you already speak english and everyone who speaks welsh also speaks english then surely learning welsh purely as a means of communication is a pointless exercise. Of course this does not apply to learning it for historical and cultural reasons as people do with latin, but I think that using it in situations where communication is the only priority (such as road signs) is a bit redundant and overcomplicated.]]>Aug 5th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Its a great idea even if most people only speak English as I know from experience, typing Irish place names is a pain (try typing Lisdoonvarna quickly on a phone) and I'm glad they're expanding it to Welsh.


Bravo Samsung Bravo!]]>Aug 5th 2009 6:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Hardly anyone calls it that though, because it is so stupid. It was changed to that just for the sake of having a long name.

I don't speak Welsh sadly (from the south, where hardly anyone speaks it), but am going to make an effort to learn when I get chance. It is good for the language and the country though. Thank you samsung.]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Welsh is fine to make the toutists point and smile but in reality it is about as much use on the world's communication stage as a bicycle is to a fish.]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Welsh is awesome. It shouldn't die. Lots of people in lots of countries speak their native tounge+english. Doesn't mean they should stop speaking their native tounge. It's a beautiful place, with awesome names (LlanfairPG = awesome).

And it's awesome when you go on holiday abroad, or hell, even if you're in England... because you can speak to your family and nobody would understand you ;)

Twll tin pob sais! ;) ]]>Aug 5th 2009 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/So far the English dogs haven't been able to break our code!]]>Aug 5th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Funny you should say that. I know a woman who married a Welsh guy and so she learnt Welsh to show some interest or whatever. They went to Wales on holiday and she went into a shop and the guys behind the counter asked each other how much they should charge "this English dog". She replied in Welsh "You won't charge this English dog anything" and walked out while the guys behind the counter were pretty gobsmacked.]]>Aug 5th 2009 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/]]>Aug 5th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 5th 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/]]>Aug 5th 2009 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 6th 2009 2:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/There doesn't actually seem to be any resentment on the Average Welsh persons behalf towards the English, or the English language as a whole.You are the one that seems to resent the Welsh language.
I ask you, what is wrong with speaking, writing, or reading Welsh in Wales? All the road signs and any other important information is in English too, so someone like yourself should have no reason to complain. No one is forcing you to Speak or even associate with the Welsh language in any fashion, so why do you feel as though a celebration of (what is left of) Welsh heritage is an attack on the English, it simply isn't. ]]>Aug 6th 2009 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Aug 7th 2009 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/Sep 16th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/welsh-nab-their-first-native-tongued-phone-and-iphone-app-in-one/
Is it possible to rewrite the iphone interface with the SDK to use a different language ?]]>Sep 16th 2009 12:06AM