http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/ Engadget Comments for Phil Schiller says Apple didn't censor a dictionary http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
You tell him comrade Paul-askinski. Long live mother Apple!]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
The reason people would be put off about buying the iphone is because incidents like this are perceived as indicative of Apple's attitude or behaviour. People will think "hey, if they do this to googles apps and to dictionaries maybe they'll do it to other applications that I want. [Competitor] doesn't look like they would do that".]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
At this point Apple needs to completely overhaul how apps are approved and denied. They need to be more transparent with the public (or at least developers) as to what *exactly* will get their app denied. This is especially needed when you have something like this dictionary app issue - Phil is saying one thing while the specific app reviewer is saying another. There needs to be a specific policy and not just "it's objectionable".

Fix this mess and maybe I'll just keep my iPhone and AT&T. I doubt it though - multitasking doesn't seem to be a big deal to Apple, nor does having reliable 3G coverage to AT&T. ]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
I'm an iPhone user, and I care about this story. I would think Apple users would too, I mean, isn't that one of the big perks of being an Apple user is the built-in dictionary?]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
I have a 3GS and I love it. But this is really annoying and disturbing. The fact that Apple will shut down apps like Google Voice but allow Textfree/Text Plus is hypocritical and worrying. The fact that they'll censor/deny all apps that aren't suitable for a 6 yr old is also really annoying.

It's a real issue. Give it up.]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
LOL you have to stop.

Maybe because THEY WOULD USE THEM.

]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
I have owned an iPhone for over 2 years, now have a 3gs and this story bothers me as a consumer, and developer.

Now you know at least one.]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Anyone ever notice he never comments on the 2nd or 3rd page of the comments, he confines his replies to only the first 2 or 3 comments so that all his verbal diarrhea stays on the first page.

Paul, GET A LIFE!!! Nobody cares what you have to say any more. Anything you comment on you instantly spin into an attack aimed at your so called 'Apple haters'. You are a delusional, blind Apple Lover, don't you see that? I guess not, that's the point!]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
1) I still can't tether my phone w/o Jailbreaking
2) Why can't SlingPlayer work over 3G w/o Jailbreaking
3) WHY CANT I SEND MMS ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I don't care if it's AT&T's fault. Apple, ditch AT&T and go with another carrier, and for the love of god give me multi-tasking. IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

eh...]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Paul, if you want to climb on your soapbox, that's fine, you're allowed to do that. For the love of Steve Jobs, please just post a new comment every so often instead of replying to tangentially or unrelated first posts.

Bad Form! Bad Form, I say!!

]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
My slavery contract doesn't expire till Feb 2011... So by then... when Apple still hasn't introduced multi-tasking in their iPhone 4GSCT (4G Super Crap Tastic) rev. 5.0, I'll be looking for a cheaper plan with whatever carrier has the best Android phone, or the best WebOS phone... or whatever else is out. The only way I'm staying with iPhone is if I get a brighter, resistive screen, better battery life, and an OS that I don't have to Jailbreak to get basic functionality. Wait... wasn't there an article about RIM patenting that or somethign..... O_o]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
"How many apps do you need!"
"The apps Apple rejects wouldn't be used by anyone anyway!"
"Kids use iPhones!"
"They have so many apps to look over cut them some slack!"

Fail fail fail fail.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Unfortunately, unless the contract expires, which according to common speculation should be expired next summer-ish, there is not much Apple can do to remedy this situation.

Most certainly Apple can't even talk about it publicly.

I too want multi-tasking but hey, Apple dismissed multi-tasking on a cellphone twice, until the next iteration of iPhone, I think such a drastic change is highly unlikely.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
@Paul - Please Paul, just give it up. This is not "fake" outrage. This is Apple being ridiculous and stupid. I want Google Voice and now the FCC has to investigate for me to *possibly* get it. All while BlackBerries are happily running it on AT&T's network. ]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
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LOL]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
The iPhone's best feature that made it so great will be it's downfall, a closed & controlled OS. I can't believe Apple gets away with this ish and Microsoft has a raging battle about a built in browser in Europe. Show me Opera Mobile w flash or another program that duplicates iPhone's functionality but does it better and I may go back.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Just as i expected.
thanks for proving my theory.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
People who are critical in ANY way of Apple = Apple Haters.

Even the people who like Apple but dont agree with this. Doesnt mater, they betrayed the company are are no better than those bastard Apple hating %$@@! They need to learn to keep their mouths shut.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Half the time, I'm never sure what the hell you're even arguing about; I think you must like being downranked for such epic monologues ado about nothing.

Everyone is pissed about them pulling GVmobile. Guess what, stop bitching, jailbreak the damn phone, and install it over Cydia. Was that so hard?]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Sarcasm... look it up in your recently approved iPhone dictionary. You may not be able to download it since the app is 17+ and you clearly don't meet those requirements. Luckily bookstores don't have an ESRB type of rating on dictionaries so anyone can pick them up. I even bet a dictionary is on your school supply list for this fall, luckily you can pick one up anywhere but on your iPhone.

I do enjoy a few apps like Pixelpipe & Amazon. I think most paid & free apps fall under the cool for 5 minutes but doesn't do much and I just wasted a couple bucks category.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Oh, and if you actually *used* Google Voice (no doubt you haven't actually gotten an invite yet but still consider yourself an expert), you'd realize that AT&T still comes out on top. It isn't VOIP; to make a call you still make a real bona-fide PSTN call, so AT&T does get its call time in.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Soak it all up, bitch.]]>Aug 6th 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Welcome to Engadget, home of Apple-haters.]]>Aug 6th 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
A windows script is generally a batch file (or vbs) that simply parses commands to the command prompt in order to automate a task in the system. You wouldn't use it to troll Engadget.

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Did you not watch the Sesame Street episode about making friends when you were a kid? You have issues. I understand how a business works but when you have an open platform and create a new market you need to allow competition. Let me throw out this word for you: Monopoly. Defined as: a monopoly exists when a specific individual or an enterprise has sufficient control over a particular product or service to determine significantly the terms on which other individuals shall have access to it.

See the issue now? You can trust apple with your life but I'll sit on the sidelines and enjoy things not Apple.]]>Aug 6th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
The problem is that when we do use logical arguments, you ignore them or at best pick out one tiny portion of our posts that is an opinion of ours and relentlessly attack us for our opinions.

meanwhile you rarely use facts to back up your arguments and fill your posts with opinions:

"How many apps do you need!"
- perhaps we need more than you, or want more selection.

"The apps Apple rejects wouldn't be used by anyone anyway!"

"Kids use iPhones!"
- While it is a fact that kids use iPhones, thinking that we should protect our kids from what they can see on TV at 4PM is an opinion.

"They have so many apps to look over cut them some slack!"
- Again another fact, and this time it isn't strictly an opinion. However it reveals you as a hypocrite. What if I said that "Windows has so many viruses to keep track of that we should just cut them some slack!" That wouldn't fly, would it Mr. Chapel?

The reason that you are always downranked is because you turn every post into a debate of how awesome Apple is. All I want to do is come here to read some tech news and scroll down to the comments section and read what other people have to think about it, and maybe grab some links from the comments for additional info. I can't do that though because all of the useful information is hidden by the flamewars that you start. For example, you got the first reply to the first two comments, and turned them into flamewars because you simply can't accept that maybe Apple was in the wrong here.

Why don't you just go to TUAW, and stay there? Or is the only reason that you are here is because you like starting flamewars?]]>Aug 6th 2009 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
I'm an iPhone user and I care. In fact, I'm still using my 2G, my contract is up, and I'm not upgrading to the next iPhone. Unless something drastic happens, I'm pretty much done with Apple completely. They're worse than Microsoft ever was. My next computer will most likely dual boot Ubuntu and Win7, and it won't have an apple on it anywhere.

Yeah, *Apple* so mercifully gave us the App Store. Thing is, there were already tons of apps for the iPhone, Apple just wasn't getting a piece of the action because it was all in jailbreakland. So Apple had no choice but to make the app store, because at the rate things were going everyone was just going to jailbreak their phone. Once Apple *graciously* made the app store, it was the *developers* who made it worth something. How does Apple thank the devs, the golden goose that's getting them so much acclaim? With a bullshit approval process that wastes developerss time and money, and generally pisses everyone off. Apple ]]>Aug 6th 2009 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
i don't even read your comments anymore,i just downrank and then report them.
i suggest everyone else do the same.]]>Aug 6th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
The really dumb part is that they're enthusiastically censoring (Oh wait, they don't censor, they just reject the apps for their content. That's not like censoring at all) the store but you can take a fresh iphone out of the box and surf the web for porn on Safari all day long, and that's not a 17+ app. It's the idiotic lack of consistency and reasoning that is killing it for us.

In a nutshell, it's Conway's law in action. You can see how dysfunctional Apple is as a company through the way them make software, and the App Store is a shining example of that dysfunctionality.]]>Aug 6th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Another fail for your list, you said ALL of them. And don't pull "they're taken of context" b/c they're not.

A."How many apps do you need!"
You said: "There are already 70,000 apps. What more could you possibly want?"

B."The apps Apple rejects wouldn't be used by anyone anyway!"
You said: "I don't see why any normal iPhone user would care that Apple is rejecting some app that they'll probably never use anyway."

C."Kids use iPhones!"
You said: "I plan on buying my 10-year old niece an iPod touch in a couple months. I would really appreciate if she can't download an app and find out the meaning of "teabagging" (No, not the Republican version) without there being some kind of parental control in place. Apple did the right thing in this instance."

D."They have so many apps to look over cut them some slack!"
You said: "have any of you given any thought as to how hard it must be to filter through thousands of apps every month? I'm quite sure it's not easy, so there are going to be mistakes and bad decisions, but most of the apps that Apple has rejected in the last few months have been subsequently approved."


I LOVE how you ignore all my replies because you know I shut you down and then just say, "See! No one answers me, they just say fail without giving reasons!" I gave you all the reasons, and you ignore them because you're delusional. Get out of here.]]>Aug 6th 2009 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
If you want to learn how to argue, Paul, I'm sure your local community college has some debate classes.]]>Aug 6th 2009 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
1 I feel really bad for iFargle.

2 @Paul Chapel- Why do you keep responding? You are consistently getting low ratings. There is no reason for you to ever touch your keyboard. No one wants to hear you speak.]]>Aug 9th 2009 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
What's more I find it disturbing when dictionaries are censored. There are people that might not know what the swear words mean and need to know it. Not native english speakers but people who have to speak it as a third or fourth language. If they had a prudich teacher they might not know any of the swear words, and there are times when you need to know them. And this figure for ages 17+. Who ever thinks 16 year olds don't know swearwords? And at least they aren't allowed to read them? That's like out of some comedy.

Ps. The approval rate went down by 1.2% just 4 days ago as 900 apps were pulled out of app store, from a single developer, 3hd most profilic in appstore. And that number gives a indication of the quality of the apps in appstore.]]>Aug 7th 2009 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
Why not?


Cydia.


that is all]]>Aug 7th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/Aug 6th 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/phil-schiller-says-apple-didnt-censor-a-dictionary/
I would assume that 99.9% of the people with this phone are over the age of...12, and can handle words like ****, ****, ********, ***, and ********************'s.]]>Aug 6th 2009 2:21PM