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bleh.]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/It will have Maemo 5 that we haven't really seen and that will be the real dealbraker.

Thankgod it's now finally confirmed that this will be a phone.]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
The biggest draw to this thing is probably the updated Maemo OS that *FINALLY* has native graphics acceleration and has a decent interface. That was long overdo, and will finally make the UI fluid and responsive, not to mention it should really help with making for a smooth web browsing experience. I have long avoided anything Nokia because of their lame UIs on Symbian and Maemo, and this thing might change my mind.

That said, this has been on the drawing board forever, and I think it was a HUGE mistake to let the Cortex-A8/PowerVR SGX iPhone 3GS come out first, not to mention the new iPod Touch will be out soon.]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/if you look closely this pic http://www.mobilebulgaria.com/uploads/news_pics/2009/08/p2_6837.jpg
it says ARM Cortex A8 | 32Gb

Or at least that's what it looks to me. And I can tell you now that this is my next phone. Good hardware + pure Linux. It means that this device has active support from the community for years. Plus all apps etc.]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
This device looks like something the N97 should have been all along, the design is stunning, put in a good processor inside, capacitative and it'll be one heck of a device.

Still not a fan of the 3 rowed keyboard... that thing could house 4-5 rows easily.]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
No way to know which is inside.

On the + note, if omap 34xx and 36xx have same pinouts then even if its 34xx it might be possible to swap to 36xx. Now is the time to start practicing BGA soldering...]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
@Gavin, T-Mobile, because Nokia hates CDMA almost as much as Apple, and AT&T wouldn't carry this for any number of reasons (when was the last time they offered/subsidized a high end Nokia phone?)]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
That... didn't go so well for them due to the network not turning on... for a while. I can't blame them for feeling burned, if that's what it is.]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
Without firmware updates and an apps store... The beauty of a device does little for me...

I expect a device to have firmware updates... Otherwise it's an unwise investment...

The Zune has firmware updates. The PSP has firmware updates. The iPod Touch has firmware updates...

And the firmware has to actually add features!!!]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
However, let's be frank. Nokia doesn't support the Maemo platform past two iterations per device.

770 - OS 2005, OS 2006 (Gregale, Bora) - the rest were unofficial/hacker editions
N800 - OS 2007, OS 2008 (Chinook. Diablo) - it's dead in the water
N810 - OS 2008, OS 2008 with SSU (Chinook, Diablo) - it's dead in the water

And this RX-51 runs Fremantle, which will have it's GTK+ UI bits removed by Qt in Harmattan, which will break all of the existing dev/apps for the most part and if the past serves an indicator, any/all major changes in OS usually means a new device. See above.

Nokia hasn't been consistent on the updates other than quickly abandoning it. Sad when the original iPhone can run (albeit a bit slower) the newest firmware. You can't say the same for the 770. And soon, not the same for the N810.

But the Maemo Application Manager is nothing, NOTHING like iTunes Music Store.]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
Now whether they can actually draw the attention of developers and help the platform get some nice useful apps, remains to be seen. I hate to be so discouraging at the outset but Nokia's track record on software is pathetic. ]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Of course UI might change (and probably will) but the old apps will still work.
That is very much the Linux-way of doing things, there's nothing wrong with it. It is truly open platform (unlike Android, iPhone etc.)]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
Granted, there are some issues involving the insane scale of devices and customers Ovi has to cover. Also some people are complaining that they can't buy before they log in etc. but those hardly make an app store 'suck donkey balls', whatever that even means. Of course you just might be one of those very few unlucky ones who, unfortunately, get plagued by a lot of technical issues, but personally my experiences with the Ovi Store have been positive.

I don't agree with the reasoning behind your first statement about how Nokia comes up with stuff first (maybe at the mass production scale, but rarely 'a worlds first') and then implements it poorly. Usually, when Nokia comes up with a new technical feature it has been polished to a very sophisticated level. After the hard work done by Nokia other manufactures are then able to reproduce it at the same level of mass production.

Nokia and its track record on software is another story, and you are right about that.]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
Nokia WILL NOT let you redownload the app ever. Once you download a program you must backup the app because nobody is going to help you get it again short of paying for it again.

Besides the store is filled with little ringtones and trinkets. The level of development is nowhere near what it is for the iPhone or pretty much any other platform. Now Maemo may be different, but Nokia doesn't have a track record of attracting developers EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE NUMBER ONE USED SMARTPHONE PLATFORM IN THE WORLD. Your potential market for an app on S60 is 4-5 times what it is for the iPhone and they still can't developers interested enough.

I wish them luck, because I like to see some competition in this space, but I don't have high hopes for Maemo either. Between Android, WebOS and iPhone OS, Nokia will have a hard time competing in this space. ]]>Aug 8th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
umm... Symbian used to have a massive developer following. Same situation with iPhone Apps; where 90% of the apps are fart or wet t-shirt apps. Those are synonymous with a new developing platform. Over the years those inconsequential and rather useless "apps" start dissappearing and making way for fewer but more useful applications. Quick Office and such are an example of apps that survive that first wave. In several years time, iphone apps will dwindle to a very small pool of apps unless apple decides not to take them down.

What you are essentially saying is that it is somehow a redeeming quality that fart apps and wet t-shirt apps are abundant in the thousands. This will eventually mostly die out as the platform matures. Symbian went through exactly the same thing.

Ovi is not just an app store. It's the equivilent of MobileMe except its free; free mobile mail, free media share, free mobile synch, free file share etc... And on the topic of failed apps downloads... Outside the NA market where services are reliable, you shouldn't ever fail a download of apps that are only 150 kb to 1mb files that only take 3-5 seconds to download. You can also backup your install apps OR download it as a sis file for storage. I fail to see how this is an impediment to the user.]]>Aug 9th 2009 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 11th 2009 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/I don't want space bars in the middle anymore, I want to reach them without reaching :)]]>Aug 8th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/looks thickish tho.. tegra inside?]]>Aug 8th 2009 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
And if you do retire your N97 Ill gladly take it off your hands :)]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
Maemo target renders looked really promising lets see how well the OS actually performs....]]>Aug 8th 2009 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/Aug 8th 2009 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
http://senseapplied.com/index.php/nokia-rx-51-live-in-flesh/

Farhan]]>Aug 8th 2009 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
1. 3.5 inch resistive touch screen with a flush screen
2. 800 x 480 resolution
3. 32 gb inbuilt memory
4. Support for additional memory (micro/mini)
5. Fm receiver and transmitter
6. Gsm + Gprs + Hspa 1700/2100(t- mobile) + wlan + Bluetooth with a2dp
7. Cpu ARM cortex A8 @ 600mhz (similar to palm pre)
8. 256 mb ram
9. Support for open gl 2.0
10. Video out
11. Charging via usb
12. 5 Mpx dual flash back facing camera.
13. Low resolution web cam in the front
14. 3 row keyboard.
15. Accelerometer
16. Gps
17. Ambient light sensor.
18. Os - maemo 5 - 80% open source
19. Application manager with 99% free applications and popular ports of desktop Linux applications.
20. Kick stand.

Now compare that with an iphone and choose which is the best for your use case!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvJk1DVkIYI]]>Aug 8th 2009 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
Wishlist:

OLED capacitative screen]]>Aug 8th 2009 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/08/nokia-rx-51-tablet-captured-in-the-wild/
How fricken hard is it to put a number row on a keyboard? The Touch Pro2 is the only one doing so right now (correct me if I'm wrong) but the 9300i by Nokia themselves proved you could pack a very usable *5*-row dual-thumb-board into a reasonably compact size.

I've never been happy with HTC phones hardware-wise (gave up at the S620 and the Tytn II) which is my comparatively ancient Communicators (really surprisingly - or maybe not, given Apple's usual hype over substance - Opera Mini on even the 9300i loads up web pages *over GPRS* quicker in many cases than my iPhone 3G's showing 3G) are still with me.

Anyone know of a non-HTC current phone with a 4-row keyboard?
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