http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/So we will have to wait for a video showing the browser in action.
Although i wonder about the speed of the browser with ie so far behind webkit and firefox.
Remember that iphone, palm pre and Android all use webkit for their browser.]]>Aug 10th 2009 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
IE on 6.5 is pretty slick...not quite as good as Opera mobile but close. The base rendering engine really has little to do with how well it performs on a mobile platform.]]>Aug 10th 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Someone is a bit angry there, aren't we?

The Apple fanboy finally has some decent competition, and is getting all pouty and quaking in his boots, so much so that his only defense is to bash an ultimately better company.]]>Aug 10th 2009 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/how about you iSTFU and get your iHead out of apples ass for a little bit!? iThanks.]]>Aug 10th 2009 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/The rendering engine may not be important but the javascript interpreter is.
ESPECIALLY on mobile devices where system resources are limited.
We'll see.
]]>Aug 10th 2009 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Do you really think Apple invented multi-touch?

Seriously, after all of the almost universally acknowledged debunking and yet still, here in Aug of 2009, we get some iDiot who argues otherwise?

Let me guess, they also invented copy/paste, video recording, and what the hell....phones too, right? Right? ]]>Aug 10th 2009 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
And white. Apple totally invented the color white. ]]>Aug 10th 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Most people use Windows because they are not aware they have a choice or because it's what's given to them at work.]]>Aug 10th 2009 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
I don't know any other way of saying how funny your comment was other than saying to you that because of you i screwed up my keyboard with coffee, thank you very much Sir.

@George

i'm glad you pointed that out, i was just about to do the same thing.

@Dax

You DO know that____BOTH____ Apple and Microsoft steal ideas from other people and claim them as Original and Revolutionary, right? Right?]]>Aug 10th 2009 10:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
And you called him an idiot... Maybe you should learn your grammar more better.]]>Aug 10th 2009 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
No most people use windows because mac os are usually only on macs which are usually way more expensive than the average computer user wants to spend]]>Aug 10th 2009 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Acutally.....Hasbro invented monopoly to the masses]]>Aug 10th 2009 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/



Oh wow, Troll-libs is definitely more fun and satisfying than the original!]]>Aug 11th 2009 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Most people use Windows because they don't want to pay 2-3 times more for something comparable.

Most people use Windows because they don't want to be limited to Steve Jobs strict decisions on what is/isn't allowed on his platform.

Most people use Windows because the vast majority of businesses, education institutions, media companies, game designers, and hardware manufacturers cater to Windows first, and Mac is only an after thought.

Most people use Windows because they are more productive with it, have more choice with it, and save more money choosing it, than if they went to the Mac platform.

But you can believe whatever you want to believe. No one is paying 2-3 times more for whatever you (err Apple) is trying to sell.]]>Aug 11th 2009 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
But anyways, the way business is run....you either

Create the Product......

or.....

You make an existing product even better.....

TaDa!!! Rack In the Cash]]>Aug 11th 2009 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Coincidence? I think not.]]>Aug 11th 2009 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
I first wondered why you posted meh. Then after seeing the long stream of replys to your comment everything became clear.
You anticipated that people could not stand to have their comments further down the page and leech to your comment in a desperate attempt to be up there where the First! have their glory.
I think you are an insightful person and have made my day. Thank you.]]>Aug 11th 2009 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
finally somebody who had at least one lesson in simple marketing and business commented.

it is part of the usual circle of life of a product that it gets copied. whether they steal the design, the technology, or the whole thing (-->clone).

you can find this in every business book.

and BTW: i am not a fan of the x-box but i have to say this:
Apple fanboys, since the company you cheer for is so superior... WHERE IS YOUR TOP-OF-THE-ART GAMING CONSOLE???]]>Aug 11th 2009 5:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
To be honest it looks like a nice device, but what does it do better than the original iPod touch that was released 2 years ago?

-faster processor (expected)
-HD video (if you output to another screen...thats what I have netflix for anyways...)
-HD radio (thats pretty cool)
-Better screen (Still yet to be known...no pictures of it used outdoors yet, where I use my iPod the most)
-Better browser (no one knows yet)

Seriously, can't we just wait until the product actually exists in a market before making baseless comparisons?

I guess not, this is engadget.]]>Aug 11th 2009 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/if i'm an idiot, then you're an iDiot.]]>Aug 11th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
The only reason to buy this is because you absolutely hate Apple for one reason or another, it would have been a contender 3 years ago if released with the first touch/iphone, but compared with how those two ecosystems have developed it has almost no chance of catching up before Apple moves on to something better (just like with the Zune). If MS gets 5% market share off this thing it will be a HUGE accomplishment (they're sitting at around 3 now vs Apples roughly 80% or so).

I mean if anyone can think of anything this has the iphone or ipod touch doesn't have please, feel free (can't even say radio, as the commercials say, there's an app for that, I listen to LAs 89.9 through my phone all the time, have pandora for music plus any satellite radio stations I want). Alternately I can think of a hundred things an iphone or touch can do that this can't.]]>Aug 11th 2009 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
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(I mean, it could be Webkit as well, but just saying.)]]>Aug 10th 2009 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
But who knows!
-Taylor]]>Aug 10th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/It would undercut companies using WinMo and get them pissed off.
MS should stick to it's stance of making software for others than making a single product.

I still don't see the big deal about the Zune though.
Maybe it'll be a base for WinMo 7, but if to be honest, most consumers will probably want the iPod Touch if there is no OLED or some big feature.
We shall have to wait and see.]]>Aug 10th 2009 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Better idea would give the zune software along with Windows Mobile package.
This will enable companies like Samsung, HTC, etc. to make zune-phones.]]>Aug 11th 2009 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/
Not sure whether it will be there by default or will be like 'Google Experience' for android - the ODMs have to pay extra for these features.]]>Aug 11th 2009 6:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 11th 2009 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 11th 2009 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 11th 2009 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Aug 10th 2009 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/10/zune-hd-on-screen-keyboard-and-browser-caught-on-camera/Just waiting for them to hit retail.]]>Aug 10th 2009 7:32PM