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Im sure that's what WM7 will be, essentially a ZuneHD-esque interface throughout the OS, plus a code rewrite from the ground up to allow for higher color resolutions (24 bit would be nice), Capacitive Screens that allow for styli to be used with resistive accuracy http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-files-patent-for-capacitive-stylus-with-resistive-accuracy/ , and Tegra based UI's that take full advantage of video/hardware decoding.

The ONLY downside to WinMo at the moment is that it takes some tweaking to get it to look as slick as other UI's.
In capable hands, not only does a WM phone such as the TG01 perform better than any other device on the market, but it can be used to accomplish so much more.

Bring on the updates I say.]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
That's exactly how I feel. I think they're allowing far too much time for people to get bored and check out other platforms.]]>Aug 19th 2009 3:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
"Appears"? Wasn't this the case for over 7 years now? Or am I understanding this wrong? Windows Mobile has been always a dual-platform supporter.]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
I still use my Toshiba e805 with WinMo 2003. Technically it coexists with my Tilt but both are going to coexist with the trash once I choose a new phone and it most likely won't be WinMo.]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
Whether they are official upgrades is largely irrelevant. Flash a phone and loading a cooked ROM is a 15 minute task. Virtually anyone can do it.]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
I wish I could update my Toshiba.]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/

Btw, I have no doubt that WM 7 will be just like WM 6.5 .. MSFT can't do an overhaul. ]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
Android hasn't even been out a year yet and it's already vastly superior to the piece of crap OS that pretty much killed the Smartphone market.

When the iPhone and Android phones came to market the sales for smartphones exploded. All those years with Windows Mobile gave us nothing but problems.

Fact of the matter is when you can get Android which is just as good if not better than Windows Mobile and open source as well why would you bother with Windows Mobile which is going to inflate the price of handsets significantly?

Even Microsoft fanboys have to see Android is a capable operating system that costs nothing.]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/08/03/windows-mobile-7-to-be-a-premium-multitouch-beast-of-a-platform/]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/If they wanted to go the dual platform route then it should be Zune UI (ported to the mobile phone) and WinMo 7 or WinCE (on a mobile Phone) and WinMo 7.
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This feels like Vista and Windows 7 Basic, Pro, Ultimate, Enterprise, Ect.
that is a bad idea-
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I actually like MS but each time they pull crap like this I must speak out.
I have a feeling they will do something to the Zune HD that will me me no longer want to get one. I have a feeling it will be with the format support and perhaps they will want me to convert all my files so the Zune can play them.
.MKV is a must
]]>Aug 19th 2009 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
Having different versions available is one of the reasons Windows has 90+% market share.
Having different versions is one of the reasons that Symbian has 50+% smartphone share.

I don't care how bad the unified OS evangelists want it, the rest of the world doesn't.


MS is spending a fortune developing WinMo 7, it has high HW requirements. They can't sell it cheap.
Everything else(6.5, 6.whatever) will have an inexpensive OEM license just like XP does for netbooks.]]>Aug 19th 2009 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Having different versions available is one of the reasons Windows has 90+% market share."

Having no competition is another, some might say, more significant, reason for that.
]]>Aug 19th 2009 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
They did have competition. Unfortunately it was rubbish.

Which still doesn't explain why Symbian is so utterly dominant.

Carry on.]]>Aug 19th 2009 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
Correct me if I'm wrong.]]>Aug 19th 2009 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
I love my iPhone 3G but I can't resist the lushness that is the Zune HD user interface which is an accurate indication of what WinMo 7 will be like which I can't wait for. But that is a problem for MS to deal with by making sure WinMo always gets some form of press until 7 is released which unnecessarily taxes their resources which could be better put to use. But deny as you might but we all have an interest in MS whether negative or positive and while they are undoubtedly behind in the smartphone war, they are not left behind as some think and suggest.

Let's be real here, when it comes to Microsoft AND Apple they are two larger than life companies that have the ability to overcome just about any obstacle whether through their seemingly endless resources or just on their brand power and recognition alone which is all so important these days. Basically, never count out the big dogs so you can expect WinMo to at the very least "stick around" if not push it's way to the top to battle it out with the leaders whoever they maybe once the war finally settles in.]]>Aug 19th 2009 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 4:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
No but really, isn't that what it's all about? Right now for me, it's WinMo, but I'm not against jumping ship or anything. Mark's got the right idea, kudos man.]]>Aug 19th 2009 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
I've been using WinMo since the days of the Velo. Everyone I know that tried WinMo gave up with version 5.0 and moved on to Sidekicks or Blackberries at that time. Now most of them have the iPhone. I think 6.1 is pretty good. I wish 5.0 had threaded text messaging and the ability to filter messages. In 5.0 when starting to type in an app, contacts would filter, PIE favorites would scroll down to that letter, and Windows Media would just head back to the top of the playlist. That was really annoying. Even though most of these inconsistencies have been fixed in 6.1, the trouble is the iPhone gave a lot of users a glimpse of how user friendly a smartphone can be. The first one may have been dumbed down and very limited but these days there are tons of apps that can do almost anything if you can find them in the app store.

As Microsoft continues to copy the iPhone with 4 touch buttons on the bottom and swishes and swipes I just wonder when will they get back the app developer support? The only phone I like out there is the Touch Pro 2 but after $300+ and extra memory and a $19 or $29 app or two I feel like I'm getting a much better value with the iPhone at $200 plus some $1 apps.]]>Aug 19th 2009 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 20th 2009 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
You clearly don't understand how the market works. WinMo doesn't have to go down to zero in order to declare as dead.
The smartphone pie in general is growing while WinMo marketshare has shrunk. The shrinkage has been accelerating.
That's how you can tell WinMo has died. Remember MS-DOS users continue to use the OS long after the OS was
declared dead officially. Same deal with Lotus 1-2-3! If you're old enough to see how tech products get demised in the
past then you'll understand WinMo days are over!]]>Aug 19th 2009 5:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
The article seems off, by a couple of quarters at least. ]]>Aug 19th 2009 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
Microsoft has a lot of programmers what takes them so long to write this code?
]]>Aug 19th 2009 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
Nobody wants 6.5.. we all want the new 7 devices and now!]]>Aug 19th 2009 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
You want something that you havent seen... yet winmo 6.5 is a pretty decent alternative to some mobile OS' out in the market today]]>Aug 19th 2009 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 20th 2009 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."

That is how good Ballmer is at predicting the future, and anticipating what people really want. I suspect that trend will continue with WinMo, since Ballmer has proven so many times that he has no idea what people really want. Now they have to play catch-up to Apple, against mobile OS X, and that's a tall order. If you asked Ballmer, he'd probably say they're going to crush the iPhone. He doesn't really live on the same planet as the rest of us.]]>Aug 19th 2009 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/Aug 19th 2009 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/
How is this playing catch up to the iPhone? Because they're making an already touchscreen phone finger friendly? It seems to me that the latest iPhone firmware is the one playing catch up.

Also, I hate to break it to you but WinMo is already crushing iPhone OS. Ignore the facts all you want.]]>Aug 19th 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/19/windows-mobile-6-5-touch-interface-update-in-february-to-coexi/You know, these tactics you employ kind of remind me of the ludicrous tactics used by racists. Microsoft and Ballmer are inferior in your mind compared to Apple right? OK. Let's entertain that idea for a second. If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much? Ballmer may have been wrong about the iPhone ( i remember his ridiculous most expensive phone ever comment) , but it must really burn your side that even as they fail so utterly as you say, MS is more financially successful and influential than Apple in almost every sector of business their involved in.

I dont think they have to play catch up at all with Apple, seeing as that they arent really in competition with each other. Apple and Microsoft rarely ever are. Not in the PC business (MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM), and certainly not in the Cellphone market. It's just fanatics like you that keep harping on this imagined battle between Apple and MS.]]>Aug 19th 2009 12:28PM