http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/so i put some badger in your badger
so you can mushroom while you snake]]>Aug 26th 2009 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
The All New PowerMac G7.]]>Aug 26th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
I think it was the other way round. Firstly by not delivering chips at 3gHz as originally promised and secondly IBM's complete inability to offer low power consumption chips for the portables. ]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
I think it was more IBM saw where the market was and it was not making special chips for Apple. OK they might have lost some sales but instead they worked on the CELL which they got into all the major consoles which is a market soo much bigger than Apple would have give its better to spend the effort there.]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
The accurate version of the story from the inside is that Apple was a relatively small customer for the part compared to overall volume yet was among the most demanding and vocal for modifying the chip for their specific needs. Shifting resources to rearchitect the chip for this lopsided situation just wasn't worth it (although the group responsible for interfacing with Apple did try hard to influence the larger Microelectronics division as a whole on this). When Apple dropped its use of the part, it was actually a welcome relief to IBM, which was not benefitting from the arrangement.]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
PS3 sold about 24.6Million in 4 years...

4 years of Mac PPC is about 16Million (average of 4million units sold per year...might be even less)

Macs now sell much more then that, so maybe its a win/win for both.]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Don't forget to add in 360 sales, the processor was developed while developing the cell (its an interesting read) and the wii chip to your sales numbers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/jan/01/sony-xbox-ibm]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
H/W is obviously completely different...]]>Aug 26th 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 28th 2009 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
After Sony's whole fiasco, I just can't see console makers launching a system above $400.]]>Aug 26th 2009 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
I can't wait to get one of the Power7 system in.]]>Aug 26th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
"peak double precision floating point performance" is only useful in specific scenarios. You running your db server and web server on your GPU? And seriously, why would you even consider "peak"? Ever hear of nominal, average, or root mean square?

Clown.

]]>Aug 26th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
That said, The Power7 is far better because it can sustain this massive processing power on traditional, highly threaded application code for commercial applications like OLTP/Database/Web server/etc that cannot be done with a GPU.

modern massively parallel GPUs are excellent for many data parallel applications like video/image/audio processing, scientific research, etc, but are limited in application compared to a monster CPU like the Power7.]]>Aug 26th 2009 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
Oh yeah because servers are so anti-parallelism. They so don't process thousands of users at the same time and they so don't multiple threads. And let us completely ignore multi million dollar super computers that mostly perform raw DP computation. I can't wait for the first GPU to come out that does all the above....oh wait.

@loosely_coupled

This is from nvidia's Tesla S1070 spec list:
Double Precision floating point performance (peak): 311 to 345 GFlops

This is from wikipedia on the Power7 chip:
max 258.6 GFLOPS per chip

You should have done some better research than using the first outdated article you came across.

I'm sure Intel making a x86 compliant GPU is sooooo stupid. What are they thinking? Million cored CPU's is clearly the way to go...oh wait.

What a bunch of pricks.]]>Aug 26th 2009 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
Same comment here. Great servers but very expensive too. We have 6 SAP Power based servers.We just bought two new p570 Power6 16 CPU servers for 950 k€ !!
We're thinking about moving the app servers to Nehalem Xeon Boxes under Linux to lower TCO.

What do you think ?]]>Aug 26th 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/
BTW - The hardware isn't the most expensive part of a solution, it's always the people cost, people to administer them, and the stupid overpaid I.T. managers that (barely) run them.

]]>Aug 26th 2009 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/26/ibm-brings-the-ruckus-and-new-power7-processor/Aug 26th 2009 6:58PM