http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/ Engadget Comments for All Zune models not named 'Zune HD' on the outs http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
(super secret experiment, lets time how long it takes for this to be ranked lowest for mentioning apple)]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/0.5% marketshare for each device? :) Zune has beome a big PR embarrassment for
the company. Soooner or later MS ought to consider an exit strategy for Zune or continue
to embarrass themself!





]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Was it watching the ipod touch do the same thing over the last 2 years?

Nah, microsoft doesnt copy Apple in any way :)

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Wait, I don't get this at all. One Zune for the masses but 5 version of Win 7? ]]>Sep 1st 2009 11:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 2nd 2009 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Problem solved.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 2:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 2nd 2009 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
uh, yeah where's that, zune has 10% marketshare, in ur house? I've never read that anywhere. It's only available in one country or such like. Thought we might whip up some action eh, bit of trolling eh

@X24

looks like u had an epic fail on being downranked. somehow you didn't get mauled by the fact haters, perhaps cause you chose carefully.

... In general, I'll never know if zune was good, I've seen pictures... But I live in that far away place called -the rest of the freakin planet beside the USA-. Hopefully zune HD graces the distant and long forgotten lands where the other 96% of the people on earth live... Hopefully]]>Sep 2nd 2009 3:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 2nd 2009 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
The first guy who asked was plenty.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
If not, fair enough, but Apple certainly shouldn't be appreciated for it over anyone else!]]>Sep 2nd 2009 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
Mr Clickerson said something that is outright rubbish - it is factually rubbish, you can check for yourself. Yet Mr Clickerson's lie is "Highly Ranked".

Right underneath that, Cy calls him on his lie. But Cy's comment is "Lowest Ranked" and therefore near-invisible (to everyone who hasn't modified their client-side stylesheet to override Engadget's censoring).

Is this clear enough for you, Engadget? Do you see now why I keep asking you to at least stop the fading of comments, if not get rid of the stupid comment rankings altogether? It is nothing but troll-bait, and you always end up with a ridiculously one-sided conversation, which side being totally dependent on whether the fans or the haters of the article's subject are more prominent on that day.

The comment rankings NEVER reflect the value or worth of the contents of the comment, so why keep with this stupid system, the only purpose of which is to reward the trolls?!]]>Sep 3rd 2009 1:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
I low-ranked your comment because you didn't back yourself up. Therefore, I'm going to call your bluff and ask you to cite recent statistics proving your point.]]>Sep 4th 2009 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
A few years? Again, who picks up the slack NOW?]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/right next to clippy ]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
Archos is releasing a 500Gb tablet soon. Maybe you could check that out. I still have some hope that MS will release some new high capacity zune, but no one can be sure until the release show. ]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
Yea. And they'll cost $600 for what you could get now in a hard drive player for $200.

Anyone remember the old RCA Lyra hard drive players (from the time period of the 1st-3rd gen iPods)? They should bring those back. Not only were they cheaper than the iPod, they also had more features. Hell, they had features that _current_ iPods still can't match. How hard would it be to throw a graphic equalizer onto the iPod touch? The Lyra had it. How about FM radio? Lyra had it. Recording ability? I believe the Lyra had it, though it's been a while so I could be wrong. Hell, I'd rather have a built-in graphics equalizer than the entire friggin' app store - it's not worth the effort sorting through millions of crap apps for the one or two rare decent ones.

Oh, and they were cross-platform. They would work on Linux, Windows, Mac, anything, without installing _any_ software. You transferred the data as a USB hard drive, and then the device itself would create a library of all the songs. No software required. Of course you _could_ use their software and build the library on the computer to save a bit of time.

Ah, and the backlight was actually a backlight, not a friggin' flashlight. Even with the iPod touch's backlight set as low as it can possibly go it's still bright enough to light up a whole room. I hate using that thing on a bus/train/plane at night because I'm alway afraid I'll wake everyone up. The lyra's backlight lit up the screen perfectly, but barely emitted any light outside of the device.
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My first MP3 player was the Lyra 20 GB Jukebox. While I don't want to knock it, the thing was beastly huge and very prone to HDD issues. As for FM radio, I don't remember mine having it. The casing was cheap, painted plastic, and the controls were over sensitive.

Don't get me wrong, I used that thing till the HDD crapped out, and I even bought a replacement for it, but it wasn't all you seem to be making the line out to be. As much as the line has evolved, it's still stayed fairly middlin'.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 2nd 2009 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 2nd 2009 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/

Did I mis-hear you? Is that not what we're talking about?]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/
If the squircle could only make it to a few WIndows Mobile phones..]]>Sep 1st 2009 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/the death of the squircle is second only to the beloved clippy.

i dont see why microsoft decided to ditch it though,
they could have made it a rectangle at the bottom of the zune HD
maybe for one way slide, but slide nonetheless.
and the two sides of it could be two buttons (kind of how volume buttons/light switches work)

or you know. something of the sort....
just.. i dont think im ready to let go.
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"I met with the Zune folks today and one bit of information than I can discuss immediately is that the Zune HD will be the only device type going forward: The current Zune models, the Zune 8, 16 80, and 120, have all been discontinued."

The important part: "the only device type going forward". That makes it sound like they are going all touch.

In my opinion, this might be a mistake. While hard drive players are on their way out, physical button players with flash, ala iPod Nano, small Zunes, will certainly always have a market. Touchscreens are not very useful if you are in a situation where you can't really see the screen, such as working out driving (responsibly at least), etc. Of course when you are 2% of the market, I guess you have to cut out what won't grow. Watch out though. With MS putting all of their eggs into one basket, this time next year we could be talking about the end of Zune players as a whole if the HD does not sell well.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/your argument is invalid]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/and the buzz for it is almost dead before its even released.
LOL.]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/but apple people won't move if they have a mac-
and this will only bring over a handful of ipod fans.
be real.]]>Sep 1st 2009 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/all-zune-models-not-named-zune-hd-on-the-outs/Sep 1st 2009 10:15PM