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I suppose it's worth mentioning that I never cared for extensions.]]>Sep 1st 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
The Turbo stuff comes from Opera Mini, a java-based browser designed for non-smart phones (you know, with a numeric keypad). It's designed to reduce the impact of low speeds and huge latencies.

On the one hand, there is an added latency due to Opera proxying everything. However, Opera sends the entire web page down the pipe in one single package, dramatically reducing the number of round trips required to retrieve the page.

Imagine these two scenarios. First, you have a fast connection. Both you and Opera are 25ms away from the web server, and you are 25ms away from Opera. The page requires 10 round-trip requests to fully retrieve.

Latency (time spent waiting, not including transfer times):
Direct: 250ms
Opera: 275ms

Now imagine that you're on a slow connection. Dialup, for example. 200ms latency.
Direct: 2000ms
Opera: 450ms

Now how about you've got satellite broadband? Fast speeds, but probably 600ms of latency.
Direct: 6000ms
Opera: 850ms

Now, there are a lot of assumptions here, but it should give you an idea of how Opera's approach can really help in high-latency scenarios. The savings are actually quite a bit better on slower connections. This stuff was designed for 2G pre-EDGE speeds. We're talking speeds that make Dialup look fast. If you're a user stuck on dialup, this will be a huge improvement. It might not make YouTube usable, but typical web pages will load many times faster.

Satellite broadband users will also see huge improvements due to the reduction of impact in latency. The number of round-trips is reduced to one, and they've got the raw speed to make streaming stuff like YouTube work fine. There are a *lot* of satellite broadband users out there, they should eat this up.]]>Sep 1st 2009 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/I hope they'll soon release the Symbian / Android / Maemo versions of Opera Mobile.]]>Sep 1st 2009 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Right now (I'm on 9.64, so it may be slightly different on 10,) you can choose on a per-site basis whether it identifies as Opera, IE/Opera (sorta like how Maxthon and other IE-based browsers identify as an IE variant,) Firefox/Opera, IE (where the user-agent is identical to that of IE,) or Firefox.]]>Sep 1st 2009 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/And also, Opera has always been the best choice! Suck it, Firefox! ^_^
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I even think it's the same guy doing the voiceover. ]]>Oct 7th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Attaching strings to the boxes to pull them out instead of making a real conveyor belt was a good idea.]]>Sep 1st 2009 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Tabs
Zooming
Speed Dial
Voice Commands
Magic Wand
Customization of the GUI

It did all of these things first and it still does them the best.
It also features dozens of useful built-in utilities / capabilities that would be considered must have plug-ins for the likes of FF.

I was once a devout FF user, but for the last couple of years now, Opera has won me over.
Oh, and it also scores 100/100 on Acid3 for what it's worth. ]]>Sep 1st 2009 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/I love the mail client!!!!
It's so efficient. I like the render engine too, its working better and more smoothly than it did for FF and IE.]]>Sep 1st 2009 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
But it's also true that I cannot use it due to couple of trivial things which can't changed: tab behavior and session restore.

I prefer (and in office I need) tabs to behave like they do in FireFox. Otherwise number of my workflows simply become succumbed in finding proper tab. E.g. closing a tab: in FireFox you go to the tab left from original, in Opera you go to the last opened tab before. Configuring Opera to behave that way proved to be impossible.

Session restore is also broken, since upon start Opera show content from cache. It's starts fast and all but then you get a shock that your online TODO list has open all the issues you have worked a week to close. Five minutes sweating, checking everything in depth - just to realize that Opera simply pooled a cached version of page from 2 days ago. But that carp came to Fx 3.5 and is just as broken.

In the end, I'd say that customization of GUI in Opera is overstated. It's pretty dumb when it comes to real world problems. I have tried to adopt Opera on many occasions (due to excelled feature set and good performance) but was always set off by minor bogosities here and there.

But as FireFox evolves into "a browser for your mom" I have a feeling that soon Opera would be better than FireFox simply because Fx would have so much crap in it.]]>Sep 1st 2009 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
also i believe you can disable reload from cache, or you know, you could just hit the reload button.]]>Sep 1st 2009 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Opera's tab close options are to activate the previously used (last) tab, the next tab, or the first child tab (first tab opened from current tab).

Preferences->Advanced->Tabs.]]>Sep 1st 2009 8:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Opera never gets any love, despite all of its innovations.]]>Sep 1st 2009 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 5:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Oh well, it's good to see that Opera is still improving their software, instead of just bugging Microsoft all the time for anti-trust.]]>Sep 1st 2009 5:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Microsoft on the other hand has been bugging Opera all the time. They broke the whole Internet with IE6. Their web services don't follow standards. At one point they even broke their own web pages on purpose just for Opera users, that's sick and disgusting. Luckily nowadays they seem to be at least a bit more sensible.
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That's true and false at the same time. Opera has a rudimentary ad filtering. But it doesn't have full feature set of AdBlock Plus (which is current version of AdBlock).

Biggest omission is of course are the subscriptions where you can get your filtering rules from somebody else. Pretty much nobody configures AdBlock manually - after installation you offered to subscribe to one of the several block lists - and you simply never see ads afterwards. Literally nobody now blocks ads manually anymore.

Another big omission is the ability to identify and hide elements by their HTML class/id, not only by the URL. Some nasty ads have pretty random URLs making it hard to narrow down what to block precisely. But quite often they have to have constant in-page identification. AdBlock Plus can use that too - Opera can't.]]>Sep 1st 2009 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
For any content that's not covered by simply nixing urls by way of the Urlfilter, simply right click the page in question and click 'Block content'. You can then use a WYSIWYG overlay to annihilate page content on a click by click basis. I've never had to use the function personally as the Urlfilter broadly covers my needs, but the option is there to get as ruthless as you care to.]]>Sep 1st 2009 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
Incidentally, I don't manually add to my Urlfilter either. Publicly accessible Urlfilters to download into an Opera installation are available and updated regularly by the community. It's not an automated process like the Firefox extension I'll grant you, but it's no major undertaking either to download what amounts to little more than a text file every now and again.

I find Opera's solutions quite adequate to remove the webs commercial annoyances.]]>Sep 1st 2009 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/
If anybody is interested about Turbo in particular I wrote about it here for my degree - http://up-stream.co.uk/2009/05/opera-turbo-testing/

You will also find a PDF report there which has some additional technical info included dissection of ethereal logs showing how turbo operates. Anyway, hope someone finds use for it.]]>Sep 1st 2009 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/It's only meant really for slow connections so you don't have to wait for the page to load in its full form.]]>Sep 1st 2009 5:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-opera-10-promises-turbo-browsing-using-scandinavian-flat/Sep 1st 2009 5:28AM