http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/ Engadget Comments for Garmin debuts Edge 500 GPS for bicyclists, determined unicyclists http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
BTW... Absolutely love the 205. Best bike accessory I've ever bought.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
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That is hilarious. Good one. Someone needs to buy you a beer for that one. ]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
The next time you have a beer, someone should take it away from you for that one.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
It's frustrating the way it loses my speed all the time. It seems to "recover" the lost data, but it bugs the hell out of me.

I've been considering getting a Garmin GPS unit for my bike, though having to charge it constantly is a serious drawback. It's cool that it does cadence and heart rate -- my Sigma doesn't have cadence, which might be nice to have.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
-Elevation data (I discovered it's a 400+ foot climb home; no wonder I'm so tired!)
-Calories burned (and, yes, it knows the difference between downhill and uphill)
-Fantastic software to collect and manage data

So, yeah, these are pricey, but not totally ridiculous.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/

And btw stop wearing those stupid form fitting cyclist jerseys, you look like a tool.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
What I've noticed in 15+ years of cycling is that it's only the truly worthless lowlifes who have a problem with cyclists. On the very rare occasion someone honks or yells at me on my favorite mountain road, it's not a motorcyclist dragging knees on the way up the hill, nor the dude in the Porsche. Family men, econobox drivers, luxury car drivers, nobody has a problem with cyclists.

The ONLY people who give us crap are the pathetic losers driving a lifted truck with ricer taillights, or some totally beat to hell car that's missing most of its original components.

People who have a life of their own don't get all impotent and angsty about stuff that in no way affects them.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
What idiots like you need to understand is that the laws ARE designed for the multi-ton deathtrap that is a car or soccer mom's SUV. Most of the time you shouldn't have to stop your car at a stop sign, either, but the law requires it because of the danger to the public represented by said large mass hurtling around while the driver sends a text message.

Legally speaking you can get a ticket for blowing a stop sign on a bicycle but usually the cops won't do anything unless you're inconveniencing someone, because there is simply no public danger from a cyclist doing this, just like a smart pedestrian can jaywalk safely.

Or do you try to mow down pedestrians for daring to have the temerity to cross somewhere other than a government-approved location?

The world's not as black-and-white as you think it is. Relax and stop throwing a hissyfit about stuff that doesn't in any way impact you. Life will be a lot more pleasant.

But if another driver, a cyclist, or a pedestrian makes you take evasive action or poses a danger, by all means, lay on the horn and let them hear it.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
But people like you that act all high and mighty that you ride a bike, are what makes riding a chore in a first place. Drivers here in my city get NERVOUS around bicyclists because they don't know what the next idiot move they are going to pull (and accidents ALWAYS go in the cyclists favor). Your 15-20MPH bike does not belong in the middle of a road with a speed limit of 30...plain and simple, you are not a car.

I love biking, but seriously get off your high horse. "People who have a life of their own don't get all impotent and angsty about stuff that in no way affects them." ya, that goes two ways, people who have a life of there own, don't spend time rationalizing or legitimizing it either.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/I couldn't agree more with everything you've said. My experiences as a cyclist (commuting and recreation) have been nearly identical to yours. I love riding and love the fact that a vast majority of motorists (myself included when I'm in my car) not only understand the road laws, but seem happy to oblige by them. I too have bad experiences with aggressive, impatient, or ignorant motorists when I’m on my bike (typically 1-3 per day of commuting) and a vast majority of the offenders match your description to a T. All I can do is continue to follow the rules of the road and hope motorists do the same (as most do). No high horse here, just a cyclist who has been at it long enough to notice trends among bad drivers.
I will admit though that I do roll-stop intersections quite often when there is no other traffic around. I’ve struggled to come to terms with it since I’d never dream of doing it while in my car, but I think I’ve finally figured out a fair way to describe it: the agility, control, and response of a bike make full stops overkill. Full stops where I have to unclip from one pedal and step down to the road feel like the equivalent to my driving up to an intersection in my car, coming to a stop, turning off the car and putting in park, getting out and looking for traffic, then getting back in, starting the car again, putting it in gear and carrying on. Over the course of a 27km round trip commute, that could get to be a bit much.
That being said, if there is any traffic at an intersection with a stop sign or red light, the safest move by far is to take the full lane and come to a complete stop behind the white line or the vehicle in front of you. NEVER ride up beside cars at an intersection or let them pull up beside you. It’s the single most dangerous thing you can do on a bike in traffic. When you clear the intersection, you can move back to the side of the road to make room for motorists.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
That said, I have to respectfully disagree with Unix Engineer's definition of proper bicycle road behavor. It is true that we are more nimble on the road than automobiles, but we need to obey traffic laws, just like a car, if we are to be able claim any right to the road. Screaming "Share the Road!" seems ridiculous coming from cyclists who blast through traffic signals, ride on the wrong side of the road, etc. Traffic laws are applicable to bicycles, just as they are to any other vehicle.

A 1-2 second trackstand at a stop light is no big deal, and the only time a red light can be ignored by cyclists (in most states) is at an unoccupied light and there is not enough metal in our frames/rims to trip the traffic sensor.
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Sure, this is more accurate, but is it really $240 more accurate? Why not just use your smartphone or whatever to do GPS logs to get your hyper accurate stats and a cheapo cyclocomputer to do the instantaneous speed readings.

According to wikipedia, phone accelerometers can be used to measure cadence. Is there an App for that?]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://connect.garmin.com/]]>Sep 2nd 2009 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
While this is nice...why is it so expensive? GPS trackers go for 40, and bike computers go for 20...would love to get one (hating taking my phone with me while I bike), but the price is a turn off.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
Obviously, if all you need is a basic GPS device with accuracy to 90-95%, then you don't need all the bells and whistles, but if you want to train seriously then you do.

Imagine that, you get what you pay for.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
Oh, and good luck mounting your iphone securely to the stem. ]]>Sep 2nd 2009 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
Then again, that's sort of fitting, as I do about as well in the crits as Evans did in the GC. ]]>Sep 2nd 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
Speed derived from GPS is not super accurate - you're better off using the unit with the cadence/wheel magnet sensor.

While the 500 is a good value against the Powertap Joule or SRM head unit, I still think the other Edge models are the better buy. The 500 is only 21 grams lighter than the the 305, which is equal in cost but also features some limited maping capability. ]]>Sep 2nd 2009 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/
The 105 is great, trace a route, follow as course, but this is just flashy rubbish.]]>Sep 2nd 2009 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 2nd 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/garmin-debuts-edge-500-gps-for-bicyclists-determined-unicyclist/Sep 3rd 2009 7:23AM