http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/ Engadget Comments for Snow Leopard ships with old version of Flash - great for hackers, not so much for the rest of us http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
If perhaps apple would include the update or just not include it all so the users have to go get the newest version on their one.

Now hackers are waiting for the obvious hoards of user who will not know to upgrade and attack them.

]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
This reminds me of that Java exploit a month or so ago that was all ready and fixed on Sun's end, but ended up held back on OSX due to Apple's lackadaisical security philosophies and draconian control over their platform.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Apple can't include an update that is released after their own RTM, and the first thing any Adobe SW does, is check for updates.
By default.

The only way that this is a problem for Apple, is if you want it to be.

Plus, do you really want to argue that Flash isn't garbage SW?]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Bitching at Apple about this is stupid. There are plenty of other things to complain to Apple about, but this isn't one.

And the other "pains" are typically the result of developers who've dragged ass on bringing their apps up to date for years. One example is all of the software that still demands Rosetta (the PowerPC emulation for software that predates Apple's switch to Intel). Come on, the Intel switchover was YEARS ago. If an app still needs Rosetta, it's probably not being maintained anymore. Move on.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
As such, "wasn't" is acceptable.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Incorrect. You're right in saying that this statement is hypothetical or contrary to fact, but that's exactly when the subjunctive is used. From Wikipedia:

To express a hypothesis

The past subjunctive is used after the conjunction if in a contrary-to-fact and contrary-to-possibility protasis. For example:

* If I were a millionaire, I would buy a sports car.
* If he had a car with him, he could drive us there.
* If I were a rich man...

]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Click link, install, done: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Mac_OS_X]]>Sep 3rd 2009 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/"Look, I hate Apple like everyone does, but this is a stupid argument. "

How sad that you think "everyone" consists purely of embittered MS fanboys. It's so amusing to see your kind hating on successful enterprises while adhering to the ones like Microsoft that have no idea how to compete in the market place.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Apple does the same thing, and we have some of the usual Apple people saying it is not a problem, people are not at risk, and no outrage at Apple. ]]>Sep 3rd 2009 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Congrats! You turned a "No results found" Google page into a page with result(s).]]>Sep 4th 2009 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 4th 2009 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Guess what. Windows 7 will also have software that isn't the "latest" when it hits shelves in October. No big deal.

Flash checks for updates anyhow, so all it will take is people to browse to a flash enabled site, see that an update is available, and download it.

See, there is this real world out there, made up of physical things. It takes time for these physical things to be made. Amazing!]]>Sep 3rd 2009 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
most....

Really?

I know there have been some issues and this flash story is disappointing but come on.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
The only real issue is that it overwrites a newer version of Flash. That's sloppy on Apple's part, but let's not blow it out of proportion.

Apple aren't perfect (far from it), but this is seriously minor; it's like a news post that Barack Obama picked his nose.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/ Flash


i wish flash would go away...FOREVER]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Browsers (and vendors) are currently arguing what the standard video format should be that that tag will use.

Mozilla and Opera are supporting the use of OGG.
Apple is pushing for H.264.
Microsoft is still asleep.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg_controversy
]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/"under 15 megs can download as quickly as a html webpage did 5 years ago"

If you are on a high speed connection that you share with absolutely nobody else. Get about 4 or 5 actively browsing pulling down 15 meg webpages and your web browsing experience will jump back to what it was like 15 years ago.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 4th 2009 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
With so many people switching to Mac, Apple wants the ex-Windows users to feel right at home. If everything "just worked", it'd be too big of a culture shock for them.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
and i also cant think of one thing that hasnt 'worked' on my computer.


advertising is great, isnt it?]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
How do you know your computer isn't infected? Maybe all your friends have dropped you into their spam filter because they are tired of the virus-laden emails that your computer keeps cranking out to them... that you don't know about.

Peddling this no-virus software philosophy is like telling teenagers that "safe sex" is BS, since you never got HIV and you haven't been to the doctor in 4 years. Way to go.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Mac is gay.
Linux is not user-friendly.
Chrome doesn't exist.
beOS is junk.
BSD is more like BSDumb.
OS/2 is trash.
Amiga is dead.

Anyone want to recommend a good operating system?]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
Think you're better of with the Gay one, that's unless your a homophobic. ]]>Sep 3rd 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
the majority of people are like tmarks, they dont know how to use a computer and so they want to yell at people that do. learn to use tools properly and you wont need to run 30,000 applications to make yourself feel safe. ]]>Sep 3rd 2009 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
...Except that even the link you included says quite differently. Fewer than 25% reported problems of any kind--in a self-selecting Internet poll with automatic bias toward people with problems.

Try harder to troll next time. At least be more subtle.]]>Sep 3rd 2009 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/
While this isn't "most" of the adopters, it is the majority. ]]>Sep 3rd 2009 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/snow-leopard-ships-with-old-version-of-flash-great-for-hackers/Sep 3rd 2009 2:44PM