http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/have predicted this outcome.


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Android is a consumer focused OS as is the iphone OS. IMHO BBOS and Winmo devices will continue to be the best mobile options for business use. ]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
so long as winmo is winmo, it'll still be winmo, and I won't want no mo. I salivated over a touch pro for months before its launch, and tried and tried to love it for a month....but simply could not. Maybe I'm just not the target market, though.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/user, you need access to the Internet. WinMo's browser is a joke. This comes from the user who had
use the OS since Pocket PC to 6.1. People are moving to other platforms.


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The reason winmo is a "slow piece of crap" is because most hardware running winmo is sorry. It's like trying out a atom based PC with a gig of ram running vista and complaining about how slow it is. Better hardware is coming/ is here, and better versions of Winmo are coming/are here.]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
Do you know anything whatsoever about the handsets you're commenting about? HTC puts a completely custom UI over Windows Mobile. There's almost nothing left of the WinMo interface on any HTC handset. I don't think I've even hit the "start" button more than a couple of times since I've had my Fuze.

So a) no, the WinMo interface is not old on HTC phones, and b) saying "WinMo is WinMo" is not even true. WinMo can be fully customized. The UI is just another process, like on any other real OS. Replace the stock process with another one and you have a different UI.
]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
hopefully Microsoft's plans to make minimum hardware requirements for WinMo7 works out because they also could use some OpenGL ES (or maybe DirectX Mobile?) for WinMo without software companies worrying about a low install base]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
I don't care for vaporware. I can only comment on what I can buy today. You could
also argue that other platforms will have better hardware and software in the coming
months.


Jeff @

Just because putting a custom home screen doesn't mean WinMo has good user experience
experience UI. In order to provide good user experince, you need good UI across all
applications, not just home screen. Try using WinMo's browser. It sucks big time.

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Complaint 1: I don't like the default browser on WinMo. OK? So, is that the old PIE or new version include with 6.5 - huge difference. And guess what, if you don't like WinMo's PIE how about loading up Skyfire, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, or one of the other dozen or so other browsers out there. It takes about 2 minutes to download and install. I'd put Opera Mobile and Skyfire against Safari or other mobile browsers any day of the week.

Complain 2: WinMo is slow. It can be. No question. If you are running on an underpowered phone it can be dog slow. If you have 30 apps open it can be real slow. If you are using a stock ROM with bloatware on it from the carrier it can bog down. The beauty of WinMo is that you can load up one of a hundred different ROMs to customize your experience. Many of these ROMs strip everything out but the bare essentials. On one of my phones, a device that is 3 years old now, I have no delay in moving around screens or opening apps. It's a very efficient 6.5 ROM that works wonderfully on older builds.

Complain 3: WinMo hasn't changed. If you think that the only change was the Today screen on 6.5 you are sorely mistaken. Virtually everything has changed from a navigation perspective. The move towards more finger friendly interaction is present everywhere. That doesn't even address changes like the home screen (which is radically different), the launcher, and some of the other core functions. Finally, if you aren't happy with the layout change it. Visit SPB and trick out your phone anyway you would like. Load up Customizer apps and make your phone look any way you want it.]]>Sep 6th 2009 2:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
All those things you mentioned: too little too late. WinMo's on the way to the grave.
It won't be able to compete with the competition. In less than the time it is taking Microsoft to go from 6.1 to 7.0 (a 0.9 OS jump)

1) Apple has delivered 3 generations of iPhones AND 3 major releases of iPhone OS X
2) Palm developed and rolled out the Palm Pre, and released OS upgrades
3) Google engineered and deployed Android in several mobile phones

RIM is continuing its wild success with blackberries and Nokia is transitioning their smart phones from Symbian to Maemo as well. In contrast, Microsoft's partners are abandoning WinMo and switching to Android. The only place WinMo is going is to the toilet.]]>Sep 6th 2009 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
i mean honestly the Diamond 2 looks amazing from the hardware to its UI but where is it? im not paying 350 for the touch pro 2 cause its not meant for me, i don't like how BIG it is, i don't need to make conference, etc. and like bjsguess pointed out people who talk bad about winmo speak out of ignorance, its a great OS and theirs certainty a lot you can do with it. The Xperia X1, Touch HD, etc. where some great phones with excellent hardware but your not going to find them in american markets and until then winmo will ALWAYS get bad reviews......

I just bought the palm pre and its simply amazing]]>Sep 6th 2009 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
I always think when removing the battery from my TP2 since it locked up for the 4th time that day, 'Wow, I'm so happy to have this high function phone.' Or, when it answers itself when it is ringing and I am already in a meeting with a client, 'Wow, it knew that I really wanted to take this call while in a meeting with a client. What a great business tool!'

All Android needs is a .doc reader and you have the same functionality as Android. Exchange support is through a 3rd party, but it's there (several coworkers have G1's). Next phone will definitely be Android... A phone cannot be high function when it cannot even function.]]>Sep 6th 2009 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
Not to mention, my boss has a WinMo for his personal phone that locks up every time he gets a call.]]>Sep 6th 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
Poor MS, their partners are abandoning WinMo and adopting Android.
Everyone else is leaving WinMo behind with their own OS/phone hardware integrated solutions.
The MS fanboys are left with nothing but that [-] button to down rank anyone who disagrees with them.]]>Sep 6th 2009 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sir,
i do not particularly like Microsoft but to believe and delude yourself with thinking that there are 'WinMo' fanboys is simply foolish... The only fanboys in the mobile OS industry come from one camp and we know all about them.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple_claims_new_iphone_only]]>Sep 7th 2009 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/I agree, WinMo is utterly suck but: as far as the browser goes, skyfire and fennec and opera are all available for WinMo and they all beat the browsers of the iPhone and the Pre.]]>Sep 7th 2009 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/09/19/another-htc-leo-hands-on-will-be-named-hd-2/]]>Sep 19th 2009 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/After the lousy job they did on all prvious phones, I wouldn't touch this phone with a 10 inch pole.
HTC does an amazing job of skinning Windows mobile and Android phones, providing great social networking apps etc. But they always get bogged down by under-performing Qualcomm chipsets.
HTC, Samsung etc can't do much about it because all the drivers are supplied by Qualcomm.

I wonder if its just Qualcomm's Windows Mobile division, or is the disease wide spread into their other divisions (Android) too. Or their architecture just plain sucks.

From performance and graphics point of view, look at Palm Pre or the iPhone (2G, 3G, 3GS). They both chose TI and Samsung chipsets over Qualcomm mainly for performance and better driver support. Palm pixi chose qualcomm's chip because they wanted a low priced model.

If you're looking for speed and snappy graphics and multimedia stay far far away from anything infected with a Qualcomm chip.]]>Oct 20th 2009 10:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 7th 2009 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/The list of phones using that is too large to list here. The processor was 1 years old, and it HAD to die since it couldn't run videos on HTCs high end phones at full 800*480. THIS, however has a 800*480 screen(other droids have 480*360, which is shit) AND a good processor so it makes for a good user experience.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/on my g1 it plays back this high quality video peple confuse with hd i just smirk :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced-definition_television]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 6th 2009 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
Also wouldn't it be more appropriate to photoshop the Sense UI onto the phone rather than the stock Android OS?]]>Sep 5th 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
You are always trying to find fault with me or what?!;)


QUOTE: "When life gives you a hundred reasons to cry, show life that you have a thousand reasons to smile".]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/Sep 5th 2009 9:57PM