http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/ Engadget Comments for Nokia X6 video hands-on: proof that capacitive touchscreens are better http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/*skew the data* just to try and make a point

and with the s60 - new demos are out for the n97 firmware with kinetic scrolling everywhere.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Can we stop the hate?

]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Please don't listen to the resistive-supporting idiots on Engadget. Stick to your guns (like you've been doing) and don't let their mindless defence of resistive screens sway you into being less aggressive.

Capacitive screens are better for finger use. That's a fact. Don't build touchscreen phones if you're not going to use the best type of screen i.e. capacitive.

Keep doing what you're doing, Thomas - I genuinely support it.]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
and then you wonder why you don't get invited to nokia's events.]]>Sep 5th 2009 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
So... no, there is really absolutely no proof what so ever of the headline implification. FAIL!]]>Sep 5th 2009 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Don't you guys get it,
Look, it's simple, any device with a:
resistive screen = sluggish, slow, and unresponsive
screen smaller than 3.5" = too small
screen bigger than 3.5" = unnecessary
device thicker than 11.6mm = bulky/chubby
device thinner than 11.6mm = awkward
device longer than 115mm = too lbig
device shorter than 115mm = cramped

But my favorite:
Device attempts to match these specs (and is not an iPhone) = KIRF! Knock off! Rip Off!
Meizu M8 = My point

Can't wait for the Nokia n900 (T-Mobile US 3G FTW!)
Currently using HTC touch HD...]]>Sep 5th 2009 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
But of course this is not Apples problem, its your problem Engadget.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 6th 2009 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Yet, the biggest problem with the capacitive screen is the real estate of it is taken too much by the on screen keyboard due to far less accurate detection. Imagine typing an email with that UI or using that phone in winter...]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
They must be leading up to the engadget TV debut.... ]]>Sep 5th 2009 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
"Imagine typing an email with that UI or using that phone in winter..."

Imagine Thomas Ricker being chased in winter by a pack of angry beasts with nothing but his iphone to call for help. ]]>Sep 5th 2009 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
I've seen this argument against capacitives before. It's so dumb. If it's so cold out that you need gloves, you're not going to be typing on a resistive screen either, becuase your won't be any better or worse with gloves on. And if you're talking about using a stylus for text input, anything past a URL is just far too slow and annoying to tap an on-screen keyboard with a stylus.

I don't see a comfortable, accurate, or quick way to type anything on any phone when it's so cold that you need gloves on, resistive, capacitive, or HW keyboard.

This whole thing comes down to preference, but please, if you're going to argue your case, making points like that will only hurt your case...]]>Sep 5th 2009 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
If only you could use resistive technology with some kind of object that you could hold in your hand, one that is small enough that it will register most taps. Similar to using a pen on paper. HEY, we could make it like an inkless pen! And if it's thin enough, this inkless pen (or 'Stylus', if you will) could fit right into the phone you're using.

But hey, what do I know?]]>Sep 5th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Coming someone who has used both WinMo and Symbian, in the area of customization, WinMo undeniably and absolutely topples Symbian phones in every imaginable way. Not only does WinMo comes with multiple interfaces that changes the way the OS works (default interfaces and third party UIs), which is something I'm not even sure Symbian has, but it comes with innumerable apps design to affect even basic usability in the phone (apps that lets you change how the GPS hardware works, how high the volume is amplified, what programs is installed upon hard reset, and etc).

Furthermore, WinMo phones are the only phones I know of in which you can change the ROMs. Not only can you change the WinMo one to a alternative that looks and works completely different, but you can even upgrade the WinMo version or even use Linux (albeit a WIP Linux most of the time). I've certainly never heard of such a thing on Symbian phones.

As a disclaimer (I feel the need to add this because there seems to be a lot of people on Engadget that hates WinMo and those who use it), I am not a biased WinMo user. In all honesty, I currently do use a WinMo phone (HTC Raphael), but I'm also about to be in possession of a Nokia E71 soon. It has nothing to do with bias, it's just what I see as reality.]]>Sep 5th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Want a stylus? They make them for capacitive touchscreens. Get over it. Just because iPhone uses capacitive doesn't mean it's useless and brings nothing new. Multitouch is a huge innovation.

Let Resistive die. It sucks and there's not one reason it should still be around.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
And where's this proof of capacitive being better?
Can you choose one pixel with capacitive screen? (Hint: No, you can not. That's a fact which means that resistive is better when it comes to accuracy.)
And multitouch means nothing as it's possible to do in resistive screens as well.

"Nokia wouldn't invite us to Nokia World this year"
OWNED. Act like bitches for a bit more and you can be quite sure you won't be going next year either (or of course you can go if you pay the 700+ euros ticket).

My personal prediction: resistive screens will become even more dominant on the market after this capacitive hype has calmed down.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
I love how people low rank me but only one takes a second to explain why they like resistive touchscreens.

People here just love them because they do. Why? They don't know, it's just cool to fight the power. The last comment I saw on the matter was highest ranked, and was simply someone saying "Resistive touchscreens are better, be a man and use some force."

Or, I can not have to worry about force or misinterpretations and simply use the superior capacitive touchscreen.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
That said, the real reason I prefer capacitive is because every resistive screen I've used has either been scratched up by the stylus after about a year of use or won't respond to finger touch unless you mash it so hard the colors warp. Also, I like the protection of a hard glass screen.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
With resistive, the technology doesnt mind how tiny the contact is. Even a pinpoint works as a contact is a contact.

With capasitive you cant have a tiny point, as the detection is made with capacitance which is area based process. You can't have a pinpoint as it has such a tiny capacitance its undetectable.

So, resistive is like typing with fingers, capacitive is like typing with elbows. You get a general area where the point is, but not accuretely.

So here's typed with fingers:
resistive

And with elbows:
cvap0assdeiotygiovb erd]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Firstly, the pixel comment was to do with accuracy of the pointing device - not it's use. But that being said, you might find graphic artists are interested in accuracy. And as for capacitive being more hardy, sure, I agree with you entirely, my resistive would scratch if I didn't use screen protectors - but at least I can use it whilst wearing gloves.]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
When we write on paper, we write with pens and pencils, not fingers. The stylus is the best and most precise analog (and therefore most effective) for that behavior.

For parts of the GUI (flick-scrolls and large buttons), it's certainly better to use capacitive. But on these message-centric devices, making it easy to launch an app is pointless if it's a pain to type.

And English is far from the only language widely used in the world: Chinese, Korean, and Japanese (among several language that use complex scripts) are better served via handwriting than button-pecking, /especially/ if it's a choice between one large writing pad versus dozens of miniature keys.

There is no clear winner. Everyone weighs these factors differently (some people only ever need English soft-keyboard, some people don't mind pressing /slightly/ harder on resistive screens).]]>Sep 5th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
"Can you choose one pixel with capacitive screen? (Hint: No, you can not. That's a fact which means that resistive is better when it comes to accuracy.)"

You're not getting the point: here we're talking about handheld devices, so naturally a good UI should be eye-friendly and finger-friendly. Sure, accuracy is a technical downside, but at no point would you want to be choosing such tiny UI objects on such small screens. If you need to do so, usually it would be the fault of an improvable UI design.

On the other hand, of course, the accuracy of resistive touchscreens is very useful for bigger screens, especially for graphics design UI.

Each type of touchscreen has its ups and downs, but one is definitely more suitable than the other depending on the device's form factor.]]>Sep 5th 2009 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
(Chinese typing still requires the access to a search result list of some sort)]]>Sep 5th 2009 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Technically, capacitive allows you to be accurate as well. It's just there's no capacitive-friendly part on your body thats more pointy than your fingers. But there ARE capacitive-friendly styluses already out there.

In either case, they're demonstrating the responsiveness of the screen rather than its accuracy. Since resistives have another layer to 'press' through (to close the circuit), its technically a little less responsive... mechanically.]]>Sep 5th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
I hereby award you your PHd for conclusively proving that resistive>capacitive. At least when it comes to accuracy.]]>Sep 5th 2009 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
the only reason i don't like capacitive is because i don't want my UI to look like something out of a PLAYSKOOL phone, everything is OMGHUGE on a capacitive screen ]]>Sep 5th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
It's all about use case scenarios and good design.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
Not. The OS is probably productive, but it's definitely slow in response.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/Sep 5th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/I'll take the N900 any day thank you.]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/05/nokia-x6-video-hands-on-proof-that-capacitive-touchscreens-are/
I will write a strong letter to my MP about such flith appearing on the intertubes.


Yours,

Major Smithe-smith (retired)]]>Sep 5th 2009 10:17AM