http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/After logitech screwed me over three times.]]>Sep 6th 2009 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/the" Wireless Entertrainement Keybord 7000.
It comes with the W.E. mouse 8000 and if you use rechargeable batteries it's better than the 8000 model.
I've had it for over an year and I love it more and more every time I use it.
So much so that often I remove it from the HTPC in the living room and take it to my home office to work on it (its BT connection really is P&P), where it takes the place of the Logitech DeNovo edge that often likes to act up and prancing for no apparent reason.
I know it's Microsoft hardware, but this one it's really worth every penny.]]>Sep 6th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
Contrary to appearances, this is a WIRED keyboard. Don't ask me why; I can't see why I would want this on my desktop instead of a normal 104 key keyboard. I could see this being used sitting on the couch with an HTPC, if this was wireless.]]>Sep 6th 2009 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
thanks!]]>Sep 6th 2009 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
No offense, but Microsoft has been making great keyboards and mice for years. I don't see what's "strange" about Microsoft making a good product.]]>Sep 6th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/"Three times" - yea, it's you. Not even a hint of fade on the WASD's either.]]>Sep 6th 2009 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
Its as if (finally) someone out there has made the perfect hardware for ME!]]>Sep 6th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/ Logitech Keyboards

Logitech Mouse > MS Mouse

Why anyone would want a laptop style keyboard with no number pad for their desk is beyond me.]]>Sep 6th 2009 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 7th 2009 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
But... "everyone" wanted *wired*? F'realz?]]>Sep 6th 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087¤t-category-id=329576204C9E42289967E79E0E7C9A2D]]>Sep 6th 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Nice. Too bad it went over the heads of so many and they upped EI8GT to highest. ]]>Sep 6th 2009 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Could be anyone's nipple. You, went there.]]>Sep 6th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
Now, when is a wireless version coming out!?]]>Sep 6th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 7th 2009 7:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
ANY chance I get to reduce the number of wires pouring out of my PC I will take.]]>Sep 6th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
1) Generally wireless keyboards from Microsoft (my KB vendor of choice) don't have the scroll/numlock buttons visible- you have to look at the wireless base (if possible) and by that time you may as well have a cord.

2) Functionally a wireless keyboard is no different than a wired keyboard- so how can I justify the batteries and environmental cost? At least with a mouse (since it moves) having no chords makes it easier to move on the desktop.]]>Sep 6th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
They are a serious security risk, they use batteries (which has disadvantages aplenty), they don't work any better than wired keyboards, they clog the RF spectrum even more, some of them are not even well supported (ie. you can't use them on the BIOS, or even on some OSes)

"Just for the looks" is not a valid reason. I don't know how's your desktop, but on my desktop, you can't even see the keyboard's wire unless you pull the keyboard out.

"Just because it's one less cable" is a very lame (borderline idiotic) excuse.

Wireless should be reserved for things where it's actually useful, like mouses or headsets.]]>Sep 7th 2009 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
If you look at the track point fans, I'll bet most, if not all are Thinkpad users who actually use the laptop as a portable device. Not just for carrying from one room to another. So a mouse is impractical. And as some of the Thinkpad models have only got a trackpoint, they used it and found that it worked well with a little bit of practice.

Personally, I can't understand why some of the current netbooks insist on near useless mini touch pads when the track point would be so much easier to incorporate. Patents perhaps.

I'm more interested in the keyboard aspect. The Thinkpad keyboards are renowned for their quality. And if I had known these were available, or on the horizon, I'd have got one. As it is, I just bought a full sized, but laptop style keyboard for my desktop, and in all honesty, it is much nicer to use than a full sized full travel keyboard, now I am used to the Thinkpad keyboard, and found it jarring to go from one to the other. ]]>Sep 7th 2009 4:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/
Personally, I still prefer my Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite for desktop computing.]]>Sep 6th 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/06/new-thinkpad-keyboard-features-crowdsourced-design-lower-price/Sep 6th 2009 9:05AM