http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/ Engadget Comments for Leica M9 microsite and brochure leaked, new X1 details in tow http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 7th 2009 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 7th 2009 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/its doing what alot of cameras cant do/ have not done... i say 7 - 8k

But i'd love if it were 1.3k]]>Sep 8th 2009 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 7th 2009 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 7th 2009 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
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need? where was the confusion? ]]>Sep 7th 2009 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
Meanwhile, in Africa...]]>Sep 7th 2009 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
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I like the form factor of the M9, though I would think it would look funny with something like a huge Canon 500 f/4 lens compared to the 5D. For tourist pictures and an easy travel camera, it would be great.

The micro 4/3's sensor isn't too bad, but I am waiting for Canon or Nikon to put one of their DSLR sensors in a small form factor camera.]]>Sep 8th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
Full-frame is great, but CCD sensors, in even much much larger medium-format cameras have relatively poor low-light capability (many medium format digital CCDs max out at ISO800 without pixel-binning). If the M9 is still a Dalsa CCD, like the M8.2, then the X1 would probably be a better low-light, IQ, better color consistency, compact, take anywhere, photography anything camera even with a smaller sensor (m43 or APS-C).]]>Sep 8th 2009 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
This especially problematic since the Leica M8 has had so much problems with IR sensitivity and color representation with their CCD sensors. It would have been much better if they decided to go with a full-frame CMOS sensor like everyone else. We live in a world where full-frame 24.6MP CMOS cameras are being sold for less then $2,000 (the Alpha-850), its not unreasonable to have a $6,000 camera to have a modern sensor.

What's the point of buying a $11,000+ Leica Noctilux F0.95 50mm lens from them if the sensor's low-light capability is going to be several stops worse then a camera a fraction of the price. You probably would get better image-quality and low-light performance on a Canon Rebel with a $100 lens then M9 with a $11k Noctilux.]]>Sep 8th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
I am more interested in the X1. Apparently it won't be a μ4/3 body, and that is a shame. Just think if Leica came out with a μ4/3 body with a similar design to the Digilux 3, 4/3 camera (with equivalent performance specs to the new Lumix GF1)? It would of defined a whole new genre, and gathered a whole new generation of converts...]]>Sep 8th 2009 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
Admittedly, for full-frame and most APS sized photo imaging sensors, CMOS technology is matured enough to overcome its initial disadvantages -- lower fill-factor due to having some of the sensor area dedicated to circuitry, higher per-pixel noise due to requiring on chip analog-to-digital converters, and although not as critical in still photography, the typical rolling shutters implemented in most CMOS designs (to improve fill-factor) can some times produce some odd imaging effects (distortion, bending or warping of objects), among other things.

Advanced microlenses like those in Canon's current CMOS sensors can minimize fill-factor losses due to the need to pass light through circuitry, and back-illuminated sensors, like Sony's Exmor-R, eliminate the fill-factor issues altogether. Improved noise reduction techniques have improved the CMOS sensor's signal-to-noise ratio to where they are equal to CCDs at low sensitivities and generally outperform them at high sensitivities -- at least at these sensor sizes.

That's not to say that CMOS sensors should be used exclusively for these applications. And I'm not saying that Leica is right in choosing to stick with CCDs in their M cameras. You'd probably have to ask a Leica engineer to find out the real reason why. I'm just saying that to argue for a CMOS sensor for the sake of putting one in because of perceived benefits or because everyone else is using them is pretty short-sighted. It's not like CCD technology has reached its limits yet.]]>Sep 8th 2009 1:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
I did, and it would be lame: How on earth is a Leica badged GF-1 defining a whole new genre, even if it was styled after a Digilux 3 (itself a re-badged L1)? If any genre was being defined, it would be the GF-1 (and probably the G1) that defined it, not anything from Leica ...]]>Sep 8th 2009 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
Exposing at 800 iso with an f1 lens equates to shooting at 12,800 iso with an f4 lens. I'd be willing to bet that the image shot on the lowly Leica sensor at 800 iso would outperform the mighty Canon kit, and I'm okay with the razor thin DOF. Time to dust off the Lumilux...]]>Sep 8th 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
CCD sensor is the perfect mismatch for a camera like the M9. The Leica M's have always been about taking pictures at the spur of the moment- taking candid events. There is little use mounting an M9 on a tripod as to compensate for its poor ISO performance due to its CCD sensor.

You are right, for studio work, the CCD is perfect. You have plenty of studio lighting, tripods, and you deal with low-ISO. Having a max ISO of 2500 like the M9 is absolutely unacceptable in modern photography. Even a $500 CMOS equipped dSLR should out-perform a Leica.

@ Jake

You spend $11,000 for an F1 lens, when you can get a F1.8 for $100, an F1.4 for $300-500, and an F1.2 L lens for a little over a $1k.

Let's put it this way, a F1.8 on a cheapo Canon Rebel 1000D will outperform a Leica M9 with a $11,000 F0.95 at ISO800 if Leica is sticking with the CCD sensor at low-light situations.

Let's keep in mind that the Leica M8.2 had serious noise below ISO200. Absolutely UNACCEPTABLE.]]>Sep 8th 2009 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
It would be a whole new genre as far as Leica getting entry level converts to their brand. It seems that Leica has been searching for that magical camera that will bring people to the fold, analogous to the Mercedes 190 'Baby Benz'.]]>Sep 9th 2009 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/
It was a Leica M7 though. I thought they made up that brand for some reason.]]>Sep 8th 2009 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 7:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/After selling my M8 and lenses, I have yet to find anything that even comes close to producing the richness and warmth when combined with the 28-Cron and 50-Lux. If the M9 is within the $6k range, then I’m in with both feet!
Regards,]]>Sep 8th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/07/leica-m9-microsite-and-brochure-leaked/Sep 8th 2009 4:18PM