http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/But guess this one sounds perfect if i want to work with MS Office, browse the internet, take notes or watch normal definition videos with a great battery life since it obliterates the N270/N280 by a few Watts.
Tho is this the total consumption of the 2 chips? Or just the CPU+GPU one?]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
Netbooks in stores now can't even play Hulu at normal resolution. If the Zune HD can do things a netbook can't, Intel's got a big PR problem.]]>Sep 8th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/i love you Engrudget
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Dude, the Atom is completely pathetic and 1.8Ghz means nothing when comparing it to Pentium standards... Of course this is reasonable because it consumes a very low amount of power.. Expect 1080 in the next Intel Atom (or hopefully AMD Atom)]]>Sep 9th 2009 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
Honestly, that's the thing with a fan on it on your average microATX atom board. Not the Atom CPU itself. Expect to see computers dip under 30 watts with this new platform.]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
If the only comment you can come up with about any Atom or Netbook story is "Why isn't this a dual core?" then you sir, are an idiot.

Intel's dual core Atom chip is designed for Desktops. It doesn't have either the power consumption or the thermal envelope to allow it to be used in a netbook.

In case you still haven't gotten it--you will NEVER see an N330 based netbook. Not next quarter. NEVER.

Get over it. Buy a "thin and light" laptop already with a CULV processor. That's what you actually want.]]>Sep 8th 2009 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
http://www.hardwaresphere.com/2009/10/17/haleron-swordfish-net102-dual-core-atom-netbook/]]>Dec 2nd 2009 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
Amazing!

Please let this netbook craze die.]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
And my name is also Mark. Obviously I'm you in an alternative reality.]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
Honestly, netbooks are forcing manufacturers to have rock bottom prices while still trying to pump out the newest advances. I don't see how this could be bad.]]>Sep 8th 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 9th 2009 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
And no, I don't have $99 netbook that plays HD video. Because if I had, I wouldn't care about new netbooks.]]>Sep 8th 2009 8:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
However, if what you mean is HD FLASH, then no current netbooks play this at all well, and it isn't likely this will do it either. And no, it doesn't matter if it has an Ion or not since flash doesn't do GPU offloading in any significant way.]]>Sep 8th 2009 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
Go read the article about the ASRock Ion mobo with the dual core Atom that Anand OC'd to 2.0GHz and still couldn't get HD Flash to work well. Then come back and comment if you like.]]>Sep 8th 2009 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 9th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 9th 2009 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 9th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
Atom N280 (Circa February 2009)
TDP: 2.5w
Clock: 1.66GHz
FSB: 667MHz
Process: 45nm

Atom N470 (Circa 2008)
TDP: 6.5w
Clock: 1.86GHz
FSB: 667MHz
Process: 45nm

In effect, all we're getting here is a slight boost in clockspeed and the GPU/memory controller moved on-die. Performance isn't likely to be significantly different on the CPU front, and the GPU is now locked-in, removing the possibility of using a higher-end chipset-based solution such as nVidia's ION.

As far as I can tell, ION (the whole deal, chipset/GPU) requires 12w, Intel's existing Atom chipsets consume 25.5w. Assuming Tiger Point consumes as much power as the ICH7 (3.3w), here's how it stacks up:

Intel N280 + nVidia ION (GeForce 9400M): 14.5W
Intel N470 + Tiger Point: 9.5W

Sure, it's an improvement in power consumption (dramatically compared to Intel's old platform), but unless they've got an exceptional GPU on-die, you're looking at much lower graphical performance. Me, I'd rather have something using the ION platform rather than the N470.

After all, with the ION, you're getting decent GPU performance fast enough for random 3D apps and low-end gaming, CUDA for acceleration or video decoding, etc. It makes the Atom platform bearable when combined with something like CoreAVC.

I've got to wonder if moving the GPU on-die was more about locking out nVidia as it was about actually saving any power (couldn't the GPU be integrated into Tiger Point?) It's hardly something to get excited about when it'll be released some time in 2010 and we've got a better solution on the market *right now*.

Come on, Intel, the only significant improvement to the Atom platform in almost two years came from nVidia! You need to step up your game!]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/Sep 8th 2009 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
As long as this has proper DXVA/VA-API and OpenCL support, CUDA just seems overkill.]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/And everyone should also understand that the GPU built in the N470 is actually even less capable than the old GMA950 included in all those N270\N280 setups. So i wonder if this thing is actually even capable to fulfill Windows 7 needs for everyone that is planing on use that OS.

Hopefully with the new ION LE things should start to go better for nVIDIA if companies still pair it with the Atom N280.]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11548&Itemid=1).

So Tigerpoint netbooks could either be much slimmer again or they have more space to include a larger battery or other hardware.]]>Sep 8th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/You can't combine cell phone with 6-cell laptop battery, so size doesn't really matter.]]>Sep 8th 2009 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/intel-atom-n470-1-83ghz-cpu-coming-to-netbooks-early-next-year/
All in all a fairly good upgrade from the Atom, yet still being the crap that it is.]]>Sep 8th 2009 9:02PM